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TheKiller
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posted 12-10-2005 03:59 PM
    
I'm secure in my new job, almost valuable there... got some savings in my bank, computer isn't running that fast anymore, it's time for an upgrade!Current Specs:
Athlon 2500XP
GeForce 4 - Ti4600 128MB
1 Gig Ram (DDR 266)
120GB 7200 Drive
SB Live X-Gamer 4.1
17" LCD screen (12ms) I'm thinkin of spending like $2000+tax. Gonna keep my 17" LCD Screen. Would like to buy all from www.ncix.com or a store in Vancouver, BC. Thoughts? -------------------- 
Talk is cheap, so is my signature.
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Headstone
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posted 12-11-2005 01:30 AM
The GTO2 card is right up there with the best bang. The only drawback is there is no PS3.0, but not that many games support it thus far. It would allow Killer to build a more complete system and then upgrade cards later.I guess an important question is are you looking to SLI? Crossfire? Judging from the "sneak preview" that Anand gave, the 580rs chipset is considerably faster than comparable nV chipsets and Crossfire is faster and more flexible. But we will not truely know until sometime in January. -------------------- Yep it really is me.
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TheKiller
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posted 12-17-2005 01:26 PM
Well here's what I ordered for pickup!Viewsonic VX724 17IN TFT LCD Monitor BLACK/SILVER 1280X1024 3MS /6MS 500:1 300CD/M2 VGA DVI
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Dual Core Processor S939 Manchester 2Ghz 512KBX2 90NM Retail Box
Antec Sonata II Black ATX 16IN Mid Tower Quiet Case 3X5.25 2X3.5 4X3.5IN 450W Air Duct 120MM Fan
OCZ EL Platinum PC3200 2GB 2X1GB DDR400 CL2-3-2-5 184PIN Pin Dual Channel Memory Kit /W Ramsink
Antec TriCool 120MM Case Fan 3-SPEED 1200/1600/2200RPM 25/28/30DBA 39/56/79CFM 3 & 4PINS
Zalman ZM-F2 92MM Case Fan Black 1600/2800RPM 20/36.1DBA 3PIN
Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA 10000RPM 8MB 4.5MS Hard Drive 5 Year MFR Warranty
Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 200GB SATA W/ NCQ 7200RPM 8MB 8MS Hard Drive 5YEAR MFR Warranty
EVGA E-GEFORCE 7800GT CO 470MHZ PCI-E 256MB 256BIT GDDR3 Dual DVI-I HDTV VIVO SLI Ready Video Card
ASUS A8N-SLI Premium ATX S939 NFORCE4 SLI DDR 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E 3PCI SATA RAID Sound GBLAN Motherboard
D-LINK DFE-538TX 10/100 ETHERNET ADAPTER PCI
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 PCI 24-BIT OEM
LG 16X Black DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE UDMA33 INT OEM
LG GSA-4167B 16X DVD+-RW 16X Dual Layer Writer IDE 2MB Black OEM With Software
Grand total with tax: 2,788.18 [ 12-17-2005: Message edited by: TheKiller ] --------------------
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AcidWarp
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posted 12-17-2005 03:37 PM
Jam, the Asus board as dual onboard lan, you don't need the lan card.You also don't really need a sound card either, the onboard 8 channel is pretty good. -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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AcidWarp
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posted 12-18-2005 03:08 PM
the impact is completely minimal. You wouldn't even notice.And for crying out loud, it's a DUAL CORE CPU. lol Oh, and one of the LAN controllers has a seperate controller for it. I think it's a marvel one. You worry too much. [ 12-18-2005: Message edited by: AcidWarp ] -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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AcidWarp
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posted 12-19-2005 02:24 AM
Onboard sound being garbage USED to be true. Not so anymore. The Intel HD audio (realtek 855 codec) and even the realtek 850 (on the nForce4 boards) is really good. I'm astounded at how well it works.I know a professional audio guy, and even HE likes the newer onboard stuff. -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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RoGuEBiTcH
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posted 12-19-2005 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by TheKiller:
I didn't want the CPU to do the work of sound or lan.
lol.. oh boy. I don't even know where to start with that one. Stash your 'net and sound cards in a bin somewhere. The onboard solutions are self-reliant devices - it's not like the old WinModems that piggybacked on the CPU to do their job. You'll have less headaches that way. Sometimes onboard components shadow system resources even when they're "disabled" in the BIOS. So much money just to play video games.. -------------------- http://quake2world.net
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burble
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posted 12-19-2005 07:43 PM
no, onboard sound is very much still garbage. i don't care if it's realtek uber-8-channel onboard surround, it's crap. a $20 SBlive value or similar will sound 10x better.i've yet to see onboard sound that wasn't full of pops and cracks and other noise, in addition to just plain flat and shitty sound. maybe you don't notice it if you're listening through monitor speakers or something, but with a $200 set of cans on, it sounds absofuckinglutely terrible. and this is just considering quality. don't even get me started on the compatibility issues. (i'm running an SB X-fi atm, btw. it's good, but overpriced. really not all that differenct from an audigy2 or higher.) [ 12-19-2005: Message edited by: burble ]
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RoGuEBiTcH
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posted 12-19-2005 09:50 PM
What audio apps are you running that push an onboard unit past its limits? How many channels are you recording simultaneously? What are your latency requirements? MIDI interfaces?Or are you just listening to 192kbps mp3? 44.1Hkz 16bit stereo with lossy compression? If you spent $200 on a set of headphones, you were definitely ripped off. I use these for production and mixing:
http://numark.com/products/product_view.php?v=overview&n=105 I got them for $75 shipped on eGay. -------------------- http://quake2world.net
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RoGuEBiTcH
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posted 12-20-2005 12:10 AM
You avoided my questions.I know $200 won't buy you a lot of studio equipment. It wouldn't buy my Korg, my turntables, my mixer, my styli, or my dual cd player. But it'll certainly buy more-than-adequate headphones for listening to mp3s. MSRP on those PHX's is $149. I had a pair of $100 Audio Technicas. They fell apart after 1 year, and so I replaced them with the PHX's. They are significantly better in every way. I never said I use my laptop's onboard sound for production and mixing. 'Highly doubt' whatever you want. -------------------- http://quake2world.net
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RoGuEBiTcH
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posted 12-20-2005 12:14 AM
lol, I just noticed.. quote:
but i highly doubt you're doing very serious 'production and mixing' with a $75 set of headphones. the worst i'd use would be my $100 flat-response audio technicas.
That's if you actually did those things, of course. Hypothetically speaking, and all. -------------------- http://quake2world.net
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Flux
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posted 12-23-2005 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by RoGuEBiTcH:
The ALSA emu10k driver (for Live! and Audigy boards) is decent, altho it did lag for a year or so to get features like AC3 passthrough.
That must be worth not getting any viruses or worms for a whole year. I guess I must be lucky cuz I run Windows, the machine is on 24/7 and I haven't gotten a single virus or worm. Ever. When will I ever learn that Windows is not secure? hm. [ 12-23-2005: Message edited by: Flux ] -------------------- 
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Flux
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posted 12-25-2005 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by RoGuEBiTcH:
Uh, yea, actually - it was worth it. Do you know what AC3 passthrough is? If I want to watch a DVD in 5.1, I put it in my DVD player.Merry Christmas, Flux, you ignorant little troll 
Oh wow. You had to wait a whole year for support for that? Well gee, I had that the whole time, and without any viruses, worms, hacks or anything else you senselessly fear. You're the troll. All you do is bash Windows, while I don't go out of my way in every thread I post in to say something bad about Linux. Do you always pretend to know everything about everything, or only when you post? As for ignorance, if security is a problem, I don't know what you're doing to keep getting viruses on Windows. You must not know what you're doing. Me not getting any viruses isn't a phenomenon, its a normal thing when someone knows how to configure the software they use. [ 12-25-2005: Message edited by: Flux ] --------------------
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RoGuEBiTcH
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posted 12-25-2005 10:29 AM
Actually, by the time I owned an Audigy, it was already fully supported.. By free drivers that just worked, that came with my kernel and required no installation, that didn't add things to some sort of system tray, that didn't install some two-bit spammed up media player or control panel extension. Pretty nice, really. I got to just use my hardware. Something completely foreign to any Windows user.I don't get any viruses or worms on Windows because ..I don't run it? I don't fear anything about Windows. Having run the platform myself for 6 years or so, I'm very familiar with it. I persue a free operating system because I value my privacy and my freedom. Someday, you'll break down and run a Unix ..in a teary, hysterical little fit. Someday, with pants soaked with pee, hard drive raped, pirated keys expired, and a reinstall of WinXyz requiring 1GB of downloading service packs, antivirus definitions, and core applications. Again, Merry Christmas, little man. [ 12-25-2005: Message edited by: RoGuEBiTcH ] -------------------- http://quake2world.net
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Flux
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posted 12-25-2005 11:22 AM
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Something completely foreign to any Windows user.
Plug-and-play, dumbass. And not having to install drivers only shows how ignorant you are of what actually comes with them. Creative's drivers come with extra tools like a mixer and soundfont loader (the kinds of tools you OSS freaks would want anyway) but no bloated media player or spam. No media player at all. Get a clue. quote:
Someday, you'll break down and run a Unix ..in a teary, hysterical little fit. Someday, with pants soaked with pee, hard drive raped, pirated keys expired, and a reinstall of WinXyz requiring 1GB of downloading service packs, antivirus definitions, and core applications.
You jack off to images like this in your head or something? No service pack has been 300 MB, let alone 1 GB. You don't know a thing. You wanna talk about updates? Linux has packages for every little thing and dependencies out the ass. Its funny how you try to be the bigger man. Really, I chuckle when reading your stuff. The latest in your unending series of I'm-superior-cuz-my-choice-in-OS-is-superior posts just shows you're nothing more than a fanboy. [ 12-25-2005: Message edited by: Flux ] --------------------
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RoGuEBiTcH
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posted 12-25-2005 12:03 PM
*yawn*You bit this one off. I'm sorry you have nothing better to do on Christmas, Flux - but I can see why. -------------------- http://quake2world.net
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Flux
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posted 12-25-2005 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by RoGuEBiTcH:
*yawn*You bit this one off. I'm sorry you have nothing better to do on Christmas, Flux - but I can see why.
As if I'm the only one posting. You're a dipshit. c ya [ 12-25-2005: Message edited by: Flux ] --------------------
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