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Flux
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posted 07-22-2005 07:28 PM
    
Looks like they finally named Longhorn. Dunno if I like it too much, but I'm still going to buy a copy (first legit copy of Windows I'll buy, that's for sure).Also, looks like Vista (that's gonna take some getting used to) will have a lot of performance benefits, finally quantified by the horse's mouth. quote:
# launch applications 15 percent faster than Windows XP does
# boot PCs 50 percent faster than they boot currently and will allow PCs to resume from standby in two seconds
# allow users to patch systems with 50 percent fewer reboots required
# reduce the number of system images required by 50 percent
# enable companies to migrate users 75 percent faster than they can with existing versions of Windows.
I'm sold. I bet the API is much, much cleaner too. Wouldn't shock me if it was a C++ port of Windows Forms. -------------------- 
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Flux
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posted 07-25-2005 09:09 AM
Actually, I read another article a couple weeks ago that confirms that the OS will written primarily in C++, not Managed C++ or any other .NET language.I could go either way. Having a garbage collector for an entire OS might be a Bad Thing(tm), but the nice clean API code would've been a major benefit. I've heard C# will be supported as a scripting language for its console. --------------------
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FS
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posted 07-27-2005 02:56 AM
Whenever I hear marketing guys spit out figures like that I'd like to hear how they're measured. And I don't mean just Microsoft, everybody does that. What I particularly mean is the startup time. Many software makers, e.g. Nokia, simply load the very core of the software and show the user a user interface, and claim that their system is quick to boot. Then when you try to access the phonebook you notice it's not loaded yet. You go for the menu, but it's unresponsive. Nothing works.Same with Windows, you get a login screen pretty fast, but it's no longer that fast when you measure time from poweroff to actually using an application with no more "post-loading" delays. So, I wonder if this means that they just shifter more junk to be loaded after login, or whether they've actually done some real optimizing. It amazes me how slow computers still are to boot up. It really shouldn't take that long. -------------------- quote:
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Wow, I can't believe I'm agreeing with FS on this one
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AcidWarp
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posted 07-27-2005 08:48 PM
I get my login prompt after about 30s (I don't use the welcome screen, but I did test and it's about the same). After that I get a fully useable machine in about another 10s (regardless of what I want to run). I remember something about XP optimizing itself in a 3 boot process. After the third one, that's about as fast as it'll go short of running something like bootvis.-------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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posted 08-02-2005 03:30 AM
btw roguebitch...Microsoft brings me home my bacon...Linux does not. While I enjoy using Linux as a niche, I like to have access to the latest greatest soonest. I hated to have to wait to get a reliable dvd decoder working on Linux and I hated even more having to install the damn thing manually. One thing can be said about Linux: It keeps those with either too much time or no life occupied  -------------------- 
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posted 08-02-2005 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by Obsidian:
btw roguebitch...Microsoft brings me home my bacon...Linux does not. While I enjoy using Linux as a niche, I like to have access to the latest greatest soonest. I hated to have to wait to get a reliable dvd decoder working on Linux and I hated even more having to install the damn thing manually. One thing can be said about Linux: It keeps those with either too much time or no life occupied
 Apparently my paycheck materializes from thin air every Friday. And apparently I have no life. I'm not going to explain the reality of the issues you just described. You're just not worth my time. -------------------- http://quake2world.net
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posted 08-02-2005 02:00 PM
Stop it with the "Microsofts sux0rs man... linux totally r0x4rs"...Sounds like some retarded AOL l337 h4x0r script kiddie thats needs to tell people how bad ass you are because you RTFM and recompiled a kernel. You accomplished what any moron that can read can do, congrats! You must think that your grandma thinks your smart and thats why you get $10 in your card instead of $5 like your brother... In reality she gives you $10 because she thinks your mildly retarded. So go bit torrent your aol subscription while listening to moby on your linux winamp edition while jerking off to that gay porn "nobody" knows your downloading.
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GFKiller
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posted 08-03-2005 03:57 PM
What an OS X ripoff is all I got to say.Haven't had a lot of time to play around with it today, but first impression: pretty cool. New interface is refreshing as was 98 to XP. I'm really interested in playing around with this Authorization wizard. It will grant more rights to basic users but prevent them from accidentally installing spyware and such. This should help me out big time with some of my idiot clients. Animations are cool, but bleh, their animations.  Will post more when I have more time.
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Flux
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posted 08-04-2005 01:22 AM
Windows Media Player can load media from any pc on a network. But thanks anyway. I don't feel like installing Alsa and associated utilities, an Alsa-compatible media player (whatever that is) or SSH. Next time you wanna prove something, just bump the thread.Can we stop with the Linux vs. Windows crap and just stay on topic? That's why I didn't reply to anything RB or Broch has said until now. [ 08-04-2005: Message edited by: Flux ] --------------------
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RoGuEBiTcH
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posted 08-04-2005 07:52 AM
"That's why I didn't say anything until now.."lol, you're a tool. And you missed the point (not that I'm surprised). Salsa is a low (read: driver) level solution for sound forwarding. It does not require a monitor, keyboard, gui, or $180 OS, running on the host computer (where the sound is played). It does not require a particular application in order to work. Any alsa-aware (read: mplayer, xmms, beep, mpg123, gaim, quakeforge, ..) will transparently take advantage of salsa with no configuration at all. Alsa is the default sound system in the current linux kernels. It'd be difficult to find a linux desktop that did /not/ meet salsa's requirements. They're only mentioned for clarification. So here's how it works: $ salsa start && pymp Wow. Really complicated. Then whatever sound I play on my laptop is played on my mediapc and heard through my home stereo without any wires or signal loss. Is it ground breaking? No. Is it the most impressive thing I've ever written? Hardly. Was that the point of my post? No. The point was that my platform is free, and encourages users to freely acquire, study, and improve it. I have a friend who's looking to change jobs. On paper, he has the same Java qualifications as I do. However, he has absolutely no linux skills. He's been a bitter little ignoramous re: linux, like you, until now. He's already missed 2 jobs specifically for that reason. Meanwhile, I've had job offers thrown at me in the past 2 years, altho I'm happily employed. My friend told me just the other day, "That's it. I have to install it and learn it. I'm tired of having nothing to say when employers ask about those skills." Ehh.. whatever. You guys will figure it out someday. Sorry for intruding on the point-and-click-cronie thread. Good luck begging MS to share their betas with you. -------------------- http://quake2world.net
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posted 08-04-2005 12:28 PM
I'm a triathlete. I sincerely doubt I'll ever be fat. Baldness doesn't run in my family at all, either. My grandfather passed away with a full head of hair. Not sure where you're going with all of that. As if you know me.I've already hired and managed several entry-level software engineers. I'll probably be a project manager long before I'm 30. MBA's with no experience are a dime a dozen. Just like software engineers with none. I'll persue that degree a few years down the road. Also, I never said that I can't do Windows, .NET, C#, .. (I mean really, who can't?) I simply graduated from that platform 5-6 years ago. I do tinker with mono (C#) because I like the language. I'm also fairly proficient in Python. Who the fuck are you, again, Broch? You have a terrible way of fitting in here. No one remembers you from a hole in the wall, yet you constantly lash out with these fabricated personal attacks. You must lead a lonely life. -------------------- http://quake2world.net
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