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WillyTrombone
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posted 07-09-2005 05:06 PM     Profile for WillyTrombone   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Here's the deal: my sister downloaded several songs from MSN Music. She wants to put them on a CD to listen to in her car. The thing is, the computer she downloaded them on has no CD burner and the files are all locked to that computer through DRM so we can't just copy them to another computer and burn them off. Anyone know any way to get around that?

The only remotely usable piece of software (a piece of shit called CD Master) was one that would pass certain parameters to Windows Media Player instructing it to write a disc, and the other software would then read and rip that disc to wave or MP3 or OGG. But withough a burner, it just crashed, leaving me back at square one.

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posted 07-09-2005 07:56 PM     Profile for Reality   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It's probably a wma v8 file using drm v2. You might can get a good copy by recording from the sound driver using directrecorder. Most of the solutions i've seen require a burner. This is the best alternative i could locate thru google. I downloaded this but i don't have any files to test it on. Tell me if it works if you try it. program is linked at bottom of page at this site.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/wma.html

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posted 07-09-2005 08:11 PM     Profile for Mad Max   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Can you use Graph Edit for the job? I don't know too much about it but I use that for stripping .tivo files.

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posted 07-09-2005 10:16 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well. . . call me mister obvious, but is it out of the question to temporarily install a burner in the machine?


As for burning it, what version of Media Player. I know for a fact that 8 and above will let you burn right from Media Player itself. I would think that you can use it to burn DRM'd media straight to disc as an audio track, if not as a file.

Found this as an alternative, it requires Nero Wave Editor. It amounts to the out to in approach.
http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips859.html

As it stands, this is a borderline topic though, not really good discussion for a public board on the internet. Of course, this is all just theory right?

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ROFL!! Just for you Willy I wasted 2 (because I had to make and test the DRM'd file) of the best CD's money can buy. (Tayo Yuden if anyone is wondering) But I was succesfully able to turn a DRM'd wma file into a CD audio track using Windows Media Player. You just need a burner. CDRW drives are so cheap now, that she should just invest in one anyway.

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posted 07-10-2005 01:13 AM     Profile for WillyTrombone   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
thanks for the suggestions, guys. I haven't found the software Max has mentioned yet. I'll give it a try if I do. I did try the freeme.exe but it didn't work. I think it might have to do with the fact that the computer for which the media is licensed is a running win98. I'll have to see if I have a burner around. I think I might have one somewhere. I think that might be the only way to go, since the ultimate goal is to get the music onto audio CD's.

As for the legality, I will fight to my dying breath that this sort of file manipulation falls under completely acceptible fair use rights, and that anything within recent law to prevent it from happening goes against the will and judicial precedent that established upon the constitution.

And AW, use CD-RWs next time.

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posted 07-10-2005 01:41 AM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Can you open it up in something like Cool Edit Pro and re-save it?
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posted 07-10-2005 02:42 AM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well, the discs may be the best you can buy, but they still only cost me something like 60 cents a piece.

I only mentioned it as being a borderline topic because it IS illegaly to bust the copy protection, even though it IS legal to use the music she paid for. I'm heartily in agreement with you.

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posted 07-10-2005 03:52 PM     Profile for Mad Max   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Try here for GraphEdit: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/directshow/htm/simulatinggraphbuildingwithgraphedit.asp

Here is a link to a page telling you how to rip tivo files: http://www.apecity.com/tivo/

and another one: http://drwho.virtadpt.net/mirrored-pages/tivo_to_go_mpeg2_decrypting/tivo_to_go_mpeg2_decrypting.html


This won't answer your question on how to remove DRM for music but perhaps the examples on how to do it for a tivo file might help. Sorry, I'm not much help with this, I just found the instructions and did the bare minimum to do what I wanted to do. What did I want to do?
http://www.bodoin.com/mpeg

There are two commercials that I took from TV, nothing too much in breach of copyright. I thought they were funny and wanted to show folks back home i.e. people who wouldn't ordinarily have the opportunity to see them.

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posted 07-10-2005 09:33 PM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I haven't done my studying on DRM protection, but would a raw copy from basic NT console (loaded by boot CD) superceed it? Or is the DRM tag built in to the file so that it remembers the licensed hardware ID.
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posted 07-10-2005 11:50 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
GFK, I pretty sure it remembers the hardware ID.

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posted 07-11-2005 07:48 AM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
In the future, persue downloading services that don't use DRM. There are several out there. Hooj.com (one of my favorite online record stores) started using those protected .wma files in their downloads section. So I poked around and found edmdigital, beatport, and 3beat. I still use Hooj for my vinyl needs, but, as I run linux, DRM'ed .wma files are an insane pain in the ass for me to deal with.

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posted 07-11-2005 07:55 PM     Profile for WillyTrombone   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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In the future, persue downloading services that don't use DRM.

Had I been downloading the files, they would not have been from a DRM service. Like I said, it was my sister, and after this, she's pretty pissed and will probably avoid them in the future.

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posted 07-12-2005 02:42 PM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Down with DRM!
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