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doublefresh
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posted 05-07-2005 11:29 AM     Profile for doublefresh   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Before
http://www.bwbeach.com/

After
http://www.building-zone.com/close.htm

What do you think?

There is a known issue with The firefox browser. The solution is unknown. Anyone have a solution?
99% of my viewers will be on IE so I'm not insanely worried.


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AcidWarp
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posted 05-07-2005 12:22 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Nice.

What's the issue with firefox? I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.

BTW, I like the 1-800 number

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posted 05-07-2005 01:44 PM     Profile for Drako   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Your problem is that you're mixing CSS and HTML positioning, which never works well. To fix it, you need to eliminate the HTML positioning and go to a pure CSS layout.

Actually, you don't. You can just copy my code from here: http://virtual.yosemite.edu/hillb/2x.htm

As to the site itself: Visually, it's a nice site and should work well, but I have a few professional nitpicks. 1. You have too many Flash images. Design wise, you have three images stacked in the left column that could easily be rolled into a single columnar flash image. Doing this would reduce the page size by eliminating the flash file overhead, improve load times by reducing the number of times the plugin needs to be initialized, and simplify the page code by eliminating the three seperate layers. 2. The basic page design restricts your ability to add any appreciable amount of text to the page. That's fine if you're simply wanting an online business card, but in my experience, my clients have always been happier with websites that would adjust in size as they added and removed content. Just because you can't think of anything you'll need to add today doesn't mean that something won't crop up in 6 months. 3. It fails the W3 HTML,and accessibility tests (it passes the CSS check). I'm a bit of a standards freak, and I always encourage people to write their pages to comply with the published standards. Everything I write today is XHTML 1.0 Transitional compliant, and while I'm not saying that you should learn XHTML for a simple webpage, but running the validator at w3.org and fixing the errors on the page you have is highly recommended.

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AcidWarp
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posted 05-07-2005 01:58 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Heh, see, I would never have spotted that because I'm too lazy to fire up more than one browser.

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doublefresh
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posted 05-07-2005 04:29 PM     Profile for doublefresh   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks Drako!!!!!

I've never been a web god. Every frew years I find a need to create a web page and this was the latest one. Usually I know what I want it to look like in my head but when I try to create it on the web I have a hard time. I know the most basic of html and that's about it. Up until my latest project I was still using front page. This is the first site I've created with dreamweaver MX. I'd like to put a form field into the "Signup for the newsletter" image but I will have to just have the image link to another page where I can use a form that I borrowed from somewhere else.

I'm a pretty good jack of all trades but a master of none. My web pages look great compared to a novice but compared to a pro they are chicken poop. I borrow most of the cool features from other places. I'm smart enough to figure out how to manipulate existing code but not bright enough to write my own from scratch. I'd like to add some database features but I am moving rather slowly on that. Max has sent me a number of files that I am trying to figure out.

The reason I went with three images on the right is that it was easier for me to to time them differently as individual objects.
If you watch for over 30 seconds it all gets pretty random. If I did it as one all of the images would change at the same time. This again is because I am not using FLASH to write the program but a cheater program called SWF that makes flash animated slide shows with the click of four or five buttons.


I'll take a peek at the validator and see what it tells me but I did not have a clue about the code itself. It was dreamweavers fault!!! :-) It wrote the code, I just told it where to put the images.

What have you been up to? Have any projects you are working on? Any new hobbies?

Thanks again Drako.


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posted 05-10-2005 02:11 PM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Firefox has nearly 10% of the browser marketshare, and it's increasing in popularity. Also, that database and programming language you're attempting to make use of are open source technologies. Why not be a team player and produce a website that conforms to open standards?

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posted 05-11-2005 07:33 AM     Profile for doublefresh   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Huh?

To write in open standards I would have to understand what open standars were. I just move things around in my html editor and let it take care of what code it uses.
I thought using Macromedia Dreamweaver or Adobe golive would keep me compliant.

Drako fixed my firefox problem. I went off to check for compliancy to the web consortium standards of the world order to the tenth degree at the site Drako recommended but I did not understand what it was telling me. I tried to follow some of their suggestions and ended up screwing up the page. Good thing I had a few copies laying around.
As an auto driver you do not have to understand the mechanics of the internal combustion engine to drive. All you have to know are thr rules of the road and where the break and accelerator pedals are.


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posted 05-17-2005 01:04 PM     Profile for Venom333   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Nice good looking site. But I think the before layout was a little better.
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posted 05-17-2005 04:15 PM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
As I am viewing it now in IE, there seems to be an text overlay problem... I'll see if I can post a screenshot.
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posted 05-17-2005 04:21 PM     Profile for J0SH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
same problem here.

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doublefresh
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posted 05-17-2005 05:01 PM     Profile for doublefresh   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
No problems!!! www.bwbeach.com is the current site. Building-zone is the testing grounds and yes it looks screwed up there.

Believe it or not we are getting really good response to the site.

Especially when you compare my site to all the other realtors in the area that used front page to make their sites 4 years ago and never updated them!!!


We are getting 4-10 leads a day thanks to the site.

It got us our first new listing just 3 days after being uploaded :-)

$7000.00 is the most I've ever made for a website :-) And that was just in it's first week :-)

Real Estate is much better than Porn :-)


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