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AcidWarp
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posted 02-28-2005 11:34 PM
Get the FSP BlueStorm 500. Seriously Sparkle Power Inc Power Supplies rock. (Fortron Source (FSP) is subsidiary iirc).I have an FSP-400w and it is totally rock solid. -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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WillyTrombone
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posted 03-01-2005 06:17 AM
I've only ever lost three or four power supplies over the years, and onewas dimply defective (it lets its smoke out on the first attrmpt to power up).I suspect it might be a problem with the AC you're feeding into the computers? Do you use an APC? Some of them run square waves rather than sine waves, and that can cause problems in long term usage. Otherwise, it might be a noisy signal or power spikes from your wall. Or of course, it could be cheap power supplies, but if it's a recurring problem with many brands, you may want to examine the situation more thoroughly. -------------------- signature
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AcidWarp
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posted 03-02-2005 03:07 AM
What Snag said.PC Power and Cooling, are the best around. -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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AcidWarp
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posted 03-02-2005 03:57 AM
[ 03-03-2005: Message edited by: AcidWarp ] -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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AcidWarp
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posted 03-02-2005 04:01 AM
I would tend to agree with you Willy, in most cases. The generic pos 400w that came with my current case was okay, no real problems with it. The only issue I had was that the main power switch (on the PSU) just up and broke one day, thankfully in the on position. I don't trust it now.On the other hand, I've seen a staggering number of generic PSU's with blown out caps in them, on the low voltage side (I've yet to see the high-voltage side blow). Not really a good thing for the hardware in the case. I've even had one with literally exploded capacitors (bits of caps everywhere). I even had one spit fire when I connect the power cord to the mains, without even turning the machine on. That one fried the hard drive, and luckily, ONLY the hard drive, although I wouldn't trust the rest of the system very far. None of those has ever happened to my personal machines, I see all that stuff at work. I think that in part, it's faulty wiring at the location, or poor surge supression between the PSU and the mains. It's also a fault of the PSU manufacturers rating for wattages at like 20c, when the internal temp of many PSU's is much higher than that, and the output ability suffers, yet the machine draws the same regardless. We always add ". . . in a freezer" when we're talking PSU ratings of generic supplies at work. -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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doublefresh
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posted 03-02-2005 11:16 AM
Lucky bastard. I have 5 computers that are in use now and another 5 that have been laid to rest. All but one have had at least one power supply fry. I usually just used the PS that came with the case until it died. Cheap cases, expensive cases. It did not seem to make a difference. The only PS that survived the test of time is on my Compac Proliant 3000 server. It is a massive 600 or 700 watt hot swappable beast. When it was new it was the shit. Now it's a dual P II 350 with old 9.1 GB raid SCSI drives. It still works great as a file server for the house.
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AcidWarp
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posted 03-03-2005 05:53 PM
Those Proliant's owned.-------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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AcidWarp
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posted 03-04-2005 01:58 AM
We had a client bring one in to work (a proliant 800) cause he didn't know what to do with it. Still in perfect working order, running SCO OpenServer 5. Only a single P2-350 and 2 4.3GB scsi-2 striped or RAID5 maybe, didn't dig to deep into it.You can still get all the parts you need/want for them from HPaq too. -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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Snag
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posted 03-04-2005 11:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by AcidWarp: We had a client bring one in to work (a proliant 800) cause he didn't know what to do with it. Still in perfect working order, running SCO OpenServer 5. Only a single P2-350 and 2 4.3GB scsi-2 striped or RAID5 maybe, didn't dig to deep into it.You can still get all the parts you need/want for them from HPaq too.
if there were only 2 drives, it was not RAID5. Back to powersupplies though, anyone who is satisfied with a cheap psu must not mind the consequences it brings. The inability to provide clean, constant power both at idle and under load is imperative to stable operation and the longevity of your hardware. I wonder how many of you guys running on a POS psu have had a blue screen or just complete hang and then in turn blamed it on Windows, an application, a driver etc... Or perhaps you got a piece of dead hardware, and just wrote it off as "it was its time I suppose".
When you build something worth as much as a computer and you expect as much as what many of us do, why cheap out on the most obvious piece of equipment that get runs your computer? I just don't get it.
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