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IS BUSH WIRED -- A clearinghouse site discusses whether President Bush uses an earpiece through which he's fed lines and cues by offstage advisers. His speech rhythms suggest this, as do some of his word choices and interjections, and his constantly shifting eye movements while speaking. And there's another form of evidence: Television viewers have sometimes heard another voice speaking Bush's words before he says them. And CSPAN have a photo of a bulge between his shoulder blades.

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Big surprise!

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“I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.”

“Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.”

I still say it's the slot for the quarters.

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“I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.”

“Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.”

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Originally posted by FS:
Wow, I can't believe I'm agreeing with FS on this one

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I would feed him some great lines.

"I believe that nipple jewlery belongs in the schools of our great nation"

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Outtie - I thought it might be a bullet proof vest of some sort, but I've been looking at some bpvs on the net, and none of the images I have found seem to correlate with what I've seen in the Bush debate picture. Also, I've read that campaign and white house officials stated that the president wore no such vest, so I no longer think it's a bpv.

The president is known to use earpieces, so it's not a surprise. I understand that there was a lot of negotiation between the candidates over the rules of this debate, so maybe this isn't actually against the rules. It probably isn't. I remember reading about Kerry having some kind of cheat sheet during the first debate, and no-one in an official capacity called him on it, so I think they both agree to allow these things.

My problem with this is that the President has had 4 years to become familiar with the issues regardless of his lysdexia, and should be able to speak for himself on these issues, but he can't. This leads me believe that he really isn't very intelligent and/or won't take the time to study, and is comfortable with someone else speaking/thinking for him. I then have to ask, what if he's really not the one calling the shots. Maybe he's just the puppet so many people think he is.

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“I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.”

“Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.”

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“I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.”

“Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.”

Unless further evidence developes to indicate that it is the opening for the puppeteers hand.

[ 10-15-2004: Message edited by: AcidWarp ]

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“I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.”

“Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.”

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You could be right, though. We can't rule out a vest. The president is a paranoid guy, and there are a lot of people who hate him, some of which would try to kill him. He may think that admitting to wearing a vest would make voters think they were voting for someone who might be assassinated. I don't think anyone relishes the idea too much of Cheney being president officially.

At the moment, I tend to think it's a radio, because I can't discount the facts that a) He is known to use radio ear pieces during speeches [even recent hi-tech systems use boxy receiver/descramblers] b) He has no debating skills to speak of c) His behaviour at the lectern leads one to believe he's listening to someone feed him the lines, and d) He is a deceiver, and this is the kind of thing a deceiver would do. It could be a vest or a radio. He may be wearing both, but while I cannot rule out a vest, a radio cannot be ruled out either. Which is more likely?

I tend to think a vest is less likely because the radio scenario answers more questions and is consistent with what is known about Bush. Plus there are close-ups of Bush's head where you can see the ear bud in place.

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So you're basically trying to tell me that the president isn't a cheater because he's a liar?

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I suppose you can look at it that way. IMHO, to look at the "evidence" the photos provide, that is the only way to look at it. To me at least, that looks more like a vest outline than anything else and I find it hard to believe they couldn't have used a smaller electronic device to "cheat" without detection.

Of course, karl Rove may want us to think it's a vest instead of a transmitter, the sly rascal he is. riiight.

MicroEar

Since I've seen pictures of the president wearing such an earpiece, I still think he went wired at this debate and definitely at speeches. However, I'm beginning to think the bulge may be due to a kevlar jacket after all.

[ 10-16-2004: Message edited by: Wintermute ]

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Originally posted by FS:
Wow, I can't believe I'm agreeing with FS on this one

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MicroEar

I do now think it's likely the president was wearing a bp vest. However, it is a fact that he uses radio ear pieces and has his lines fed to him during speeches. I have also seen debate close-ups of Bush where you could see the ear piece in his ear. I'm sure someone will think that I just hate being wrong which isn't true. I wish I were wrong about most of the things I think about Bush, but I don't think I'm wrong. He wore an ear piece, and is most likely wearing a vest and a)won't admit to it to preserve his life and maintain voters' sense of security, and b)can't officially disavow the questionable bulge on his back as being a wire as many reasonable people think because he actually is wired with a radio ear piece which many people Know. The photos, previous audio/video footage, and personal accounts pretty much close the case on that one.

[ 10-16-2004: Message edited by: Wintermute ]

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Anyhow, I was ignorant of it's availability, and instead of maintaining my stance without any effort to back myself up, I did some research to back you up, and found that you were right. Sue me for being intellectually honest and humble enough to admit when I was wrong.

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Originally posted by Acid:
Ever seen the movie "Enemy of the State?" It's real.

Also, I shouldn't have to provide evidence of technology that has been around for years now. Thanks for supporting me though, sweetheart.

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