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god
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posted 10-13-2004 10:32 AM     Profile for god   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Reminder I'm in Canada
I am going for an AMD for sure..


I've been told to get the nforce3 250 chipset so I found a motherboard which I think will be good...

K8NSNXP-939 GIGABYTE SOCKET 939 NFORCE 3 250chipset

The processor choice has come down to 2 of them.

AMD ATHLON64 3200+ 512k BOX
AMD ATHLON64 3500+ 939Pin 512k Box

I am under the impression that the 3200 is 939pin when it has the 512k cache?

There is a $180 dollar price difference between the processors.

As of late I have been told that nvidia has taken the video card market as for performance


Which card would you recommend....I don't want to spend something ridiculous on a card like 700 bucks but I also want to be able to play any game.

I have been told to go with corsair memory....I will be getting pc3200 that is ECC. Does anyone know the quality of kingston or micron?

On a harddrive note would I notice a huge difference in performance from a 7200 sata to a 10k sata raptor?

I've got all my other components figured out already just need assistance on the above....thanks

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posted 10-13-2004 11:03 AM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
OCZ EB PC3500 is really good ram.

nVidia isn't a clear leader by a longshot. nVidia shines in OpenGL, ATi shines in D3D. HL2 isn't out yet, so there isn't a clear cut path to go.

Not sure about your processor, but it definately should be S939.


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posted 10-13-2004 11:15 AM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I happen to know for a fact that Valve recommends the Radeon for HL2.

ATi is doing MUCH better in terms of OpenGL too, their new drivers solved a lot of the rendering issues. Now if they can just keep that up, nVidia MIGHT be forced to actually do some R&D.

Other than that, the Athlon64 3200+ I don't think is 939, I could be mistaken. Remember even the Athlon XP barton core processors have 512k cache. (at least my Barton 2600 does).

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posted 10-13-2004 04:08 PM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
In all honesty god, if you're not going with an Intel based chipset (915) that supports PCI-Ex, I would wait on your Athlon64 purchase. In a couple of months they should be releasing a chipset for Athlon64 that supports to PCI-Ex.

I've been recommending to everyone (especially gamers) that are looking for new computers to at least get one that support PCI-Ex just so that two years down the road when you are still using it and you feel like upgrading, you have choices. AGP cards will be a thing of the past after next year. Soon to follow after that, the normal PCI Bus.

That's just my opinion, but trust me dude. You want PCI-Ex.


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posted 10-13-2004 10:07 PM     Profile for god   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hmm Alright i found out that the 3200 is not 939.....

damn everytime i go to buy a new comp, i always end up waiting and not actually getting one....

I can definately wait because i do have my laptop i purchased for school for general computer use but I have been fiending for games for so long because other then the laptop with the 64 shared memory i bought almost 2 years ago I have a P2 266!!! with powerful tnt 1...good ole quake machine


Anyone know if tomshardware still gets paid off to endorse certain products cause thats where i was recommended to get nforce 3 and a nvidia video card

is pci-E going to change everything because i have heard otherwise....which i could be horrible mistaken on

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posted 10-14-2004 01:32 AM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
PCI-E is the way things are going. Better buswidth, lower voltage, serialized as opposed to parallel (hot swappable, at least, potentially), lower bus transfer overhead. Not being limited to 5 pci devices, lower pin density. I could go on.

A Board with 2 PCI-E 16x slots can run two graphics cards linked. Not for dual display, but as an SMP type setup. nVidia already has the technology actually. They've had it for years, ever since they bought 3dfx. They call it SLI.

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posted 10-14-2004 09:36 AM     Profile for god   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I heard SLI setup could be used but I doubt I will fork over money for two video cards....If i am just getting a single video card will I notice a huge difference?

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posted 10-14-2004 01:27 PM     Profile for Headstone   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
[H] had a brief blurb up the other day with some early benches with SLI and the gains were between 60-80% so not quite double. Other factors will slow the system down, cpu being one of them and by the time you get a cpu fast enough to run the games at near double speed there will be a single card that will do the same. As for the mobo, ATi and Via should both have PCI-e boards out soon. Wait until then to make your full decision.

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posted 10-14-2004 03:10 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah, I only mentioned it because you could get 2 lower end cards that support it, for less than a top end card, and get close to the same performance when using them in SLI mode.

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posted 10-18-2004 01:23 PM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I remember using SLI mode for my two PCI Monster2 3DFX cards.

Those were the days...


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