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Topic: Anyone watching the debate tonight?
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smohq
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posted 09-30-2004 04:25 PM
    
Make sure to invite a friend, and play BINGO!
http://www.planetsocks.com/bingo.asp Refresh a few times, some of them are fuck*ng hilarious! -------------------- No left turn unstoned.
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AcidWarp
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posted 10-01-2004 02:39 AM
I decided that instead of watching it, I could get the same satisfaction out of watching Springer reruns. Seeing that in both cases it's an inbred hick, and a slow talking nitwit fighting over a bloated cow . . The sad part is, Springer makes it easier to figure out which is which. [ 10-01-2004: Message edited by: AcidWarp ] -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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doublefresh
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posted 10-01-2004 10:29 AM
I'm more republican then Democrat but after watching the debate I think Bush is a pig headed idiot and Kerry is actually somewhat bright.Why did we go to war in Iraq? Bush never answered that. Because Saddam was an evil dictator? There are other evil dictators on the planet. Because of WMD? We found none, not to mention that we supplied Iraq WMD to use against Iran in the 70's Because Saddam was not complying with the UN Resolutions? Then the UN should have declaired War, not Bush. Because Saddam was making nukes? N Korea and Iran have nukes as well as England, Pakistan, The former USSR, India, France and a few others. I believe we are also still developing our own nuke technology. So basically Bush lied to us because he wanted what? More Oil? to finish a war his father started? He wanted to play cowboy and take out an evil dictator??? I was not going to vote at all but now I think I will and it wont be for Bush
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posted 10-01-2004 11:51 AM
I thought Kerry would do worse than he did and Bush better than he did. It was the opposite of my prediction. Bush sent too many "mexed missages" IMO. [ 10-01-2004: Message edited by: Cacophonous ] -------------------- ...
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posted 10-01-2004 01:05 PM
John Kerry won that debate easily. Bush looked tired and confused, he didn't appear to have it together at all, he fumbled a lot. I can't believe no one advised him to control his facial expressions during Kerry's talk time either. I still don't believe Kerry can actually do all the things he says he can if he becomes POTUS, but I cannot believe Bush pulled such a bad performance last night considering he was surely prepped by his gunmen knowing how Kerry has more experienced debating. He kept looking at his notes as if he was lost a few times and spent too much time repeating Kerry's words. From a pure selling standpoint, Kerry closed and Bush fumbled the sale imo. I think Kerry would help U.S. foreign relationships for the short term, but I'm not sure how important that really is. He is of course a more polished politician, but that is about it. Both him and Bush are basically nothing more than a coupla rich bastards trying to sell us something. On a side note, regarding North Korea, I think this is an interesting article: http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript1104.html
I don't know if Kerry or Bush will be able to handle NK in a diplomatic fashion at this point. Kerry tries to make it sound like he'll be able to pull a Bob Barker and have em come on down to be the next contestant. Bush is too stubborn and tries to act like John Wayne too much.
We're probably screwed no matter what for at least another four years.
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AcidWarp
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posted 10-01-2004 09:24 PM
*/me points to his original post in this thread after reading outtie's post*[ 10-01-2004: Message edited by: AcidWarp ] -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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posted 10-02-2004 10:55 AM
Kerry won that debate, IMO. Bush just isn't a strong enough leader. Kerry just seemed way more comfortable and relaxed and Bush seemed like he was really uneasy.
--Really??, I've always been taught that North Korea is communist.
[ 10-02-2004: Message edited by: J0SH ] -------------------- I am.
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AcidWarp
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posted 10-02-2004 09:11 PM
Actually, Marxism IS democratic. The people decide the leadership.Communism is the same way. Believe it or not, the USSR had elections, and anyone could vote, in fact voting was encouraged. Choice was rather limited, kinda like a 2 party system only without the bi-partisan bullshit. Party loyalty went out the window because there was only one party. That doesn't mean there was no difference in opinion between cadidates, often times there was. -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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posted 10-03-2004 02:14 PM
lol! Good find Fess-------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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posted 10-03-2004 04:38 PM
AW - I am shocked and appalled and what you've said. The only choice was between supporting the (singular) party or exile/death. I have family who fled from a communist nation and I have family who never made it out. You have disgraced them all. I have nothing further to say to you on this topic because if I continue, I will surely lose my temper. If we were chatting in person, there would be a crowd trying to pull me off you by now. [ 10-03-2004: Message edited by: WillyTrombone ] -------------------- signature
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posted 10-04-2004 02:46 AM
WillyT, I never meant offense. I understood the other side of what I said, and I never meant to imply that it was an unforced vote. My choice of words was a little poor I suppose.[ 10-04-2004: Message edited by: AcidWarp ] -------------------- “I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.” “Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.” --Dr. Stephen Hawking.
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posted 10-04-2004 09:25 AM
Nobody, I mean NOBODY with a modicum of intelligence should or will base the disposition of their vote on this last, or any future "debate" as shown on that medium geared for the underachieving ignorant, TV.In this case, it's Kerry telling you what he's been told you want to hear, and it's Bush trying to put a presentable spin on what he's done in the last 3 1/2 years. To judge Kerry - look at what he's done in the last 30 years. That's a better indication than what he says he wants to do. Unless you're a flaming liberal, you'll probably take some pause. Check Bush for the same time period, but more closely in the last 3 1/2 years. He's the only one of the 2 that has actual experience being a president. Maybe you approve of his job, maybe you don't, but at least you're getting an accurate picture of what he does in the position. A helluva lot more accurate than these moronic debates would portend. I don't think Bush has done a great job, but I'll grant him somewhat of a benefit of a doubt because hindsight is always 20/20, and because (most importantly) looking at Kerry's last 30 years, he scares the shit out of me. I don't care if he sounds or IS more intelligent, he does things I don't consider as best for this country. I'd accept that both Clinton and Carter were more "intelligent" than their respective opponents, and it certainly didn't sublimate itself in their performances in office. Who I would really like to vote for is someone who bases his/her decisions on what is the best thing for the country, not their political party or social agenda. That would eliminate 90% of ALL current politicians. Speaking of socialism/communism/marxism - with Kennedy and Kerry as senators, why do you think they call it "The Peoples Democratic Republic of Massachusetts" ? [ 10-04-2004: Message edited by: jondster ] -------------------- No Sig
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