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Topic: Cool Flash of Pentagon Strike
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Wintermute
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posted 09-05-2004 01:00 PM
    
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Originally posted by Headstone:
very compelling.But then what really happened to that airplane? Did it land somewhere? Crash somewhere else, or was it a total fabrication made to tie in with the other events on that day?
It's easy to conclude with all the evidence we're allowed to see that there wasn't a plane, but something did happen. The question in my mind was, where would all the people and the plane have gone? [ 09-05-2004: Message edited by: Wintermute ] -------------------- Verdammt durch das Fleisch. Gerettet durch das Blut.
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Wintermute
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posted 09-05-2004 04:37 PM
We would have heard it by now? You mean the government and the press would have done everything in their power to get the truth to us because governments never lie or try to cover up the truth, and the press never withholds information or heavily slants the information it does give us? There is a cover up taking place. There is evidence not being presented by the government. I am force to conclude based on the available evidence that at the very least things were not as we were told they were. I've read analysis of the twin towers attack, and there are way too many oddities to ignore there as well. I'm not saying I know what happened, but something did happen, and it's not exactly what we've been lead to accept as the story. WT, you don't find anything represented in that movie as being odd or quesionable? You feel you have a logical explaination for all those points? I'm all ears if you want to enlighten me. -------------------- Verdammt durch das Fleisch. Gerettet durch das Blut.
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WillyTrombone
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posted 09-05-2004 06:02 PM
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We would have heard it by now? You mean the government and the press would have done everything in their power to get the truth to us because governments never lie or try to cover up the truth
Don't patronize me. That's not what I said at all, and you know that. I know you're smart enough to know that. And I know you're smart enough to know the difference between assertion and fact. The assertions made in the video are quoted from eyewitnesses and are short on context and completely lacking qualification for the breadth of the comments made. It's hollow. For instance, one man said he smelled cordite. That's smokeless powder. If you've ever been to a firing range, you'll be familiar with it. If you've ever handled raw smokeless powder, you'll know it isn't volatile enough to give off an odor. The implication is that he smelled the combustion products of cordite, the most prevalent and pungent of which is nitrogen oxides. If you're familiar even basic chemistry, you'll know that nitrogen oxides will form whenever a significant amount of nitrogen is exposed to a oxygen and heat. Jet fuel is very rich in nitrogen and if you've ever been outside at a large airport, the distinct pungent aroma of nitrogen oxides is always present. Further, that quote is taken from a much piece (interestingly, slightly misquoted as well) in which it is plainly obvious that the reaction of "a bomb had gone off" was his first reaction as he sat at his desk inside the pentagon. And that is the result of no more than 5 minutes of searching with google with a quote chosen completely at random. In this thread, you are the plaintiff. You brought forward this "evidence," and now it's up to YOU to show that it's worth any serious consideration. -------------------- signature
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WillyTrombone
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posted 09-05-2004 09:31 PM
into the pentagon. And the atmosphere. Most of the skin probably simply combusted. Most of the structure would have been horribly twisted and shattered and would not have looked like their orignal specs after such an impact. Even in wrecks that are in open fields, recovery is never even close to 100%. add in the nearly full fuel load and the wreckage of the pentagon and there won't be many discernable pieces left over. I mean, take a look here. It's a test conducted by sandia about 15 years ago in which an f4 fantom was "flown" into a solid wall. Note that in the test, water was used to simulate the mass of the fuel in the plane, and the combustion upon impact was unexpected. So where did the plane in the pentagon go? smithereens. plain and simple. Every single piece of the plane had momentum at about 350 mph into the pentagon. Nothing in there could have reflected the impact by those parts. Everything would have penetrated, and the only the most robust parts (wheel rims, airframe, etc) would have survived, albeit deep in the impact zone, while the lighter parts that could have been deflected (pieces of the plane's skin, loose items, passengers and their effects) would have been either driven into the pentagon with the rest of the wreckage or mangled into dust or completely cremated. Go look at any other plane crash. The same is almost always true. Often, plane wrecks are spread out over several hundred yards, even a few miles. all the energy that would have separated those pieces in the open were forcused into the building. Look at the twin tower wrecks. The impact holes were nowhere near as wide as the wingspan of the plane. But did YOU see any debris fall?-------------------- signature
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