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AcidWarp
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posted 03-10-2004 02:26 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
And they want to scrap it. . .pfffft fucking morons.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/73/36151.html

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posted 03-10-2004 03:00 PM     Profile for mynameisxanthan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by AcidWarp:
And they want to scrap it. . .pfffft fucking morons.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/73/36151.html

You do realize the Hubble breaks down more than anything else in the world? It was broken as soon as we put it up there. Why keep sinking money into it, if its just perpetually broken? Yes, we are taking it down. But 2 years after its down another one is going back up, which will hopefully be a lot more durable and less expensive on the whole.


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posted 03-10-2004 03:10 PM     Profile for WillyTrombone   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
they want to scrap because they're really getting to the frayed ends of its utility. It's going to need maintennence soon and rather than spending whatever it'll take to fix it, they're going to take it out of service and replace it with a new, high resolution interferometer. Makes sense to me. Instead of an old spy satellite turned around, they'll actually have a real astronomical device up there.

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posted 03-10-2004 03:43 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I hadn't heard that ANY replacement was going to be sent up in it's stead.

All I had heard was that the Hubble was being let go, and nothing was going to take it's place.

If it's true that another space based telescope is going up, then I'm somewhat relieved.

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posted 03-10-2004 04:02 PM     Profile for FS   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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until ESA and NASA launch the James Webb Space Telescope in 2011.

It says so on the page you linked

And yeah, land-based telescopes are already as effective as the Hubble, and a lot cheaper, so it's time to scrap that heap of junk, and replace it with something better.

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Wow, I can't believe I'm agreeing with FS on this one

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posted 03-10-2004 04:57 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What makes you think I read that far

Or that I even read it. . . I like impressive titles more than that words underneath

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posted 03-10-2004 06:50 PM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by AcidWarp:
What makes you think I read that far

well, we assumed you were intelligent.

Mistake noted.

good link btw.

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posted 03-10-2004 08:03 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

Heh, actually, I only had time to skim it. I had company come over so I never got to read the full thing.

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posted 03-10-2004 10:54 PM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It's a picture. Until we can get there, who cares!
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It would be easier if we could just pin an alien to a board and make him talk. Stick needles into his ears and probe his brain. Make him have sex with our cousins. Take samples of his reproductive organisms. Use him just has he has used us since the beginning of time.


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posted 03-10-2004 11:18 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
lol@Cy

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posted 03-11-2004 03:13 AM     Profile for WillyTrombone   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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And yeah, land-based telescopes are already as effective as the Hubble

I honestly can't believe that. There are too many unpredictable optical effects from the atmosphere. You can make something the same resolution, yeah, but it still won't be as sharp.

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posted 03-11-2004 04:18 AM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It's not only that Willy, there is also the ambient electromagnetic white noise. Cities can throw a lot of electromagnetic "noise" into the atmosphere and that obscures non-optical telescopes as well.

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“Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.”

--Dr. Stephen Hawking.


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posted 03-11-2004 12:25 PM     Profile for Serengeti   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Boy, that-there universe shore is a biggun, ain't it.
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posted 03-11-2004 12:33 PM     Profile for Serengeti   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Though the above reply was somewhat tongue in cheek, it really is quite humbling when you look at the picture, seeing the tiny, tiny galaxies captured and realize that each of those is made up of billions of stars with possibly hundreds of billions of planets spinning around them.

Makes you feel kinda small.


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posted 03-11-2004 12:36 PM     Profile for Cacophonous   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I was more upset when the discontinued Hubba Bubba bubble gum.

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posted 03-11-2004 01:52 PM     Profile for grumpy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
u guys remember that big chew gum?? it came in a bag and it was all shreded up like chaw. so if you were a lil kid, you could be chewin snuff like the big boys with a grape flavor.
what was that stuff called?

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posted 03-11-2004 02:05 PM     Profile for MadHatter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
big league chew

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posted 03-11-2004 02:08 PM     Profile for Serengeti   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ba-Da-Bing!
http://www.bubblegum.com/bigchew/bigchew.html

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posted 03-11-2004 02:09 PM     Profile for Serengeti   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Damn you hat! I so had it!
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posted 03-11-2004 02:20 PM     Profile for Cacophonous   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hubba Bubba rocked compared to that Little League Chew.

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posted 03-11-2004 02:36 PM     Profile for FS   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I only forward what I read

anyway, land based telescopes have the advantage of huge area, and the hubble telescope isn't anything fancy by today's standards. So the best land telescopes of today are just as good as the Hubble, but not as good as we could make the Hubble today.

...or so I read anyway.

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Originally posted by FS:
Wow, I can't believe I'm agreeing with FS on this one

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posted 03-12-2004 09:34 AM     Profile for MadHatter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
close serinmagatti.. close, but once again you are left to marvel at my unmatched internet skillz. w00t

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posted 03-12-2004 11:12 AM     Profile for Serengeti   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
you are teh 1337
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