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Rivendell
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posted 10-01-2003 03:57 AM

to upgrade my system. I expect delivery next week.

P4 2.8 Ghz, 1024 Mb RAM, 128 Mb ATI Radeon 9800 Pro

A weeny bit better than my current setup...

P2 450 Mhz, 128 Mb RAM, 16 Mb Riva TnT

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Cacophonous
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posted 10-01-2003 08:44 AM

What the hell are you going to do with the gig of ram? What OS?

About time for an upgrade though...

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outrider
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posted 10-01-2003 10:08 AM

If I'm not mistaken, isn't your P2 box a dell? I remember when you got it. I was going to get a dell around that same time to replace the packard bell p233(which was my entrance into the home computering world) But jondster and others convinced me to get the 300a@450 route instead, which led to me tinkering with computers so much that in the time you've stayed with that P2 450/tnt setup I've went thru:

the 300a
then the 366@550 with tnt2 ultra
then a P3 750
replaced tnt2 ultra with geforce 2 gts
then went with a t-bird 1.4 with geforce 3 ti
then a P4 2.0 with geforce 4 ti4200 and a xp 1900 with the geforce 3
then a 2500 XP to replace the xp 1900 with a radeon 9600 pro to replace the geforce 4
got a 50 buck nforce board and slapped xp 1900 into it for daughter's pc.

So now I have 3 pcs at home networked all because jondster and the gang talked me into building my own. In fact, I cannot imagine buying a prebuilt box now and 3-4 yrs ago I could not imagine building one, heh.

Is the P4 a dell also? Your games are gonna smooooooth.

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Snag
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posted 10-01-2003 11:39 PM

cac...a gig of ram is by no means overkill. take a look at your system...i bet it sitting at the desktop, unless you have absolutely nothing running, it will probably have about 125-250MB of ram committed to certain processes. Now take into account the abhorant inefficiencies in windows and its memory management (WinNT/2k/Xp is better than 9x....but it still sucks) and then take into account the fact the way windows does NOT always utilize your ram before jumping to the much slower swap (one registry setting can change all that...and the more ram the merrier!!!

) couple that with the possibility that if you do any sort of gaming then BOOM....dynamic processing and a lot of memory being used there too. Do any rendering, ripping or encoding? again....memory requirements go up further. Hell, I have run out of memory just raping the newsgroups at 1MB a second for an hour or two (and I had a gig in that machine at the time). Besides, for the price of RAM, why the fuck not? I find it hilarious this question was posed by a muscle car lover when a pinto will get him from A to B just the same

I remember Bill Gates said 640k would be enough for anybody...hmmm....nothing above conventional. Those were the days eh?

Never bought a pre-built...never will. If I do, it will only be for the parts (sure as hell not the motherboard) and the software (since ya can't beat that side of the deal).

Congrats on the system Riv...sure you will love it. I am waiting until next year though...PCIX with a shiny new NV40...MWAHAHA AGP8X CRUSHER!!! mwahaha

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Rivendell
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posted 10-02-2003 03:35 AM

Cac~
I think Snag basically covered it...Say it loud..You can never have enough (or too much) ram!

Seriously, though....for gaming, rendering when tinkering with different graphic-programs, etc. ram is a good thing. I also expect the ram-requirements for many games will rise in the future and like to get a 'head start'. I'll run XP btw.

Outtie~
Man! Good memory! I got it around Christmas of 98' if I remember correctly and yes - it's the Dell. Lol@all the different setups you've been through....almost makes me glad I waited instead (remember...computers and parts are more expensive here )
And yes - the p4 is a Dell as well. Never had any trouble whatsoever with the old one, so I figured - 'why not'. I expect to format and configure it 'my way' when I get it anyway Atleast I 'should' be set for Doom 3, right?

We need to get some gamingsessions going again!

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Cyborg6
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posted 10-02-2003 09:38 AM

Riv~ RAM is good. How much $ does a new rig cost these days?

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Rivendell
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posted 10-02-2003 02:05 PM

Remember this is an "all-included system", cause it might seem expensive... =)

2140$

However...that includes an 80Gig Harddrive, a 17 inch monitor, a 48x CD-RW/DVD COMBO, Soundblaster Live, Altec Lansing 745 Speakers, optical mouse...etc.

And..I'm buying it through work, meaning I won't have to pay taxes, reducing the price to about 1714$.

Still rather expensive when compared to U.S. prices, though....

[edit] Oh, and one more thing. By buying through work, and having the amount drawn directly from my salary, I'll end up paying less income-tax...so in reality it'll end up even cheaper...But still expensive....[/edit]

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Lindi
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posted 10-03-2003 07:38 AM

Sounds like a nice setup. Is the 17" flatscreen or CRT?

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Rivendell
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posted 10-03-2003 10:36 AM

CRT - I really have no use for it, since I already have a 17 inch and a 19 inch, but you can't buy that model without a screen. I'm thinking of giving it to my brother....(or perhaps giving my old 17 inch to my brother)

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GFKiller
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posted 10-03-2003 05:36 PM

No offense, I personally think you're getting ripped at that price, but that's just my opinion.

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Snag
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posted 10-03-2003 11:00 PM

dude....remember where he is from.

and employee purchase programs/interest free employee computer loans are cool. Most companies here are doing away with them now since a computer might no longer be seen as a "major" investment and most people began to not use them anyway.

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TheKiller
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posted 10-05-2003 06:16 PM

Hey nice rig!

You gotta give us some benchmarks!
Q3 Full Graphics
3D Mark (Mad Onion)

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Cacophonous
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posted 10-05-2003 11:27 PM

I never said a gig of ram is too much. I just wondered what he was going to use it for...rendering or whatever.

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Rivendell
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posted 10-06-2003 01:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by GFKiller:
No offense, I personally think you're getting ripped at that price, but that's just my opinion.

I think I'm being ripped at that price, but those are the prices over here...

Cac~
It will mostly been used for gaming, although I have been fooling around with photoshop and bryce from time to time.

I'll get to those benchmarks...

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GFKiller
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posted 10-06-2003 04:36 PM

I forgot about the fact that you live out there, my bad.

U should of responded quicker to my post about the parts im selling. If grumpy falls through, I believe you are the next in line. I just gotta double check that though.

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Tea Bagger
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posted 10-06-2003 08:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by GFKiller:
[QB]of QB]

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Rivendell
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posted 10-07-2003 03:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by GFKiller:
I forgot about the fact that you live out there, my bad.
U should of responded quicker to my post about the parts im selling. If grumpy falls through, I believe you are the next in line. I just gotta double check that though.

Nah...no worries...I wouldn't know how to install those parts anyways...
(that's one of the things I never bothered learning..)

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GFKiller
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posted 10-07-2003 12:40 PM

It's not like it's hard. It's actually a very rewarding feeling.

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TheKiller
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posted 10-10-2003 09:22 PM

Still awaiting those Benchies!!!!!

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Rivendell
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posted 10-11-2003 06:20 AM

Heh...I've never really done this before...

Guide me to the programs and games I should test, please

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TheKiller
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posted 10-14-2003 02:41 AM

www.madonion.com

Look for 3DMark2002

Quake 3...damn it's been a while...
timedemo 1
demo demo001
type those into the console.

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Rivendell
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posted 10-14-2003 03:50 AM

You mean I have to reinstall that game...?

Oh well...we'll see if I can't please you this weekend...

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TheKiller
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posted 10-15-2003 04:17 AM

I downloaded 3DMark2003... scored 1618!!! OUCH

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Snag
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posted 10-15-2003 10:40 AM

do you have a DX9 based card? They (Madonion) suggests only using '03 if you do. Otherwise you might say ouch when it isn't warranted.

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outrider
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posted 10-15-2003 02:09 PM

Yea that's about a right score for gf4

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outrider
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posted 10-15-2003 02:12 PM

With a barton 2500 and a 9600 pro o/c'd 500/350 I get just a bit over 4000 score. I bet Riv will hit mid 5000 or so.

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TheKiller
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posted 10-16-2003 05:45 PM

My System Specs that would affect the outcome:
GF4 Ti4600
AMD Athlon 1700+ XP
512 Megs DDR 266MHz
Direct X 9.0B
Win XP Pro

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TheKiller
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posted 10-16-2003 08:40 PM

How fast do you do your SETI work units? Mine take 3 hours 47 minutes on average.

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Rivendell
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posted 10-17-2003 11:11 AM

I haven't really clocked them, but it seems they take from around 2 hours to around 3 hours and 40 mins.....

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Snag
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posted 10-17-2003 02:23 PM

omg...who even does SETI anymore?

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Rivendell
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posted 10-17-2003 09:27 PM

Me: http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?email=ealexa@hotmail.com&cmd=user_stats_new

And us: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_94799.html

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TheKiller
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posted 10-17-2003 10:31 PM

OOOOOHHHHH yeah... that's me on top

Me ( http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?email=jamieh@interchange.ubc.ca&cmd=user_stats_new ) :
Your rank out of 4715969 total users is: 26698th place.
The number of users who have this rank: 3
You have completed more work units than 99.434% of our users.

Riv:
Your rank out of 4715969 total users is: 97966th place.
The number of users who have this rank: 56
You have completed more work units than 97.922% of our users.

I always wonder if I'm moving up or down in place...

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Headstone
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posted 10-22-2003 02:18 AM

and me coming on strong with my new system.

I finally upgraded myself.
Now running this

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