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Originally posted by Cyborg6:
I can think of NOTHIMG more boring than watching a bunch of cars go around and around on a track.

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I can think of NOTHIMG more boring than watching a bunch of cars go around and around on a track.

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How about the poor bastard who has to drive the car in circles, that must suck.

There's Big Ben..........again!

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Originally posted by Broch:
I can see Cyborg is about to go over the edge..

as usual.

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...Combined with the equally fervent efforts by the ruling body to make sure the Pontiac, Shivvie, Dodge or Ford will bear absolutely no resemblance to what Earl Mullet in the stands could possibly purchase at his local dealer.

To wit:

1. Acid dipped metal and plastic body made in the image of some real vehicle, but has to be constantly checked with templates to make sure it conforms to weekly-changing rules.

2. Said vehicles are practically all front wheel drive. Mystically convert to RWD for this competition. Hell, Ford even mystically makes a Taurus a 2 door (instead of a 4 dr sedan) for this. Ask the salesman to see one of those on the lot.

2. Said vehicles sold to the public generally have multivalve overhead cam V6s, measuring 3.0 to 3.8 liters (that's 183 to 231 cu. in. to you Playstation2 owners) with fuel injection in order to acheive EPA mandated emissions and fuel economy standards.

Once again, mystically the motors become somewhat generic custom-cast 360+ cu in V8s with 2 valves per, pushrods, and 4 bbl carbs. "Yup, that Shivvie small block shore does haul ass".
"Huh ? You mean like the same one that's in that Ford over there ?"

3. THEN, in the spirit of good ole Amuricun tweaking, the good ol' boys manage to get too much horsepower out of that archaic but venerable design, causing the cars to go too fast (it's a race, now isn't it?). So the "ruling body" steps in and mandates "restrictor plates", artificially determining how much fuel/air can be had, and causing the good ol' boys to venture of into other areas to tweak or cheat the rules.

But then again, who'd pay to see a bunch of stock Ford Tauruses and Shivvie Monte Carlos run around in circles ??? Let alone the whole idea of placing an ad for Viagra on the hood or fender of a family sedan ...

The beauty of NASCAR originally was (when it first started) that the racers were thought to either be using their racing vehicles to transport illegally distilled potables during the week, or learned their driving skills piloting their "tankers" with the "revenuers" in hot pursuit. Maybe not entirely true, but definitely the stuff legends at least get a start with.

Today, I can't imagine Jeff Gordon drinking anything but Perrier. Johnny Benson is from Grand Rapids, and has no reputation for doing bars to excess, let alone supplying them with his family vehicle outfitted with a 500 hp motor and a 100 gallon "cargo" tank

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"Round and around you go"

I dont mind watching it, when I have nothing else to do.

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Formula 1 -> Go Shumi go, hope someone can challenge you this season.

2. Damn - YES. Those are stock - bodied dinosaurs that, YES, you COULD actually purchase

Question: Approximately when did NASCAR go from stock bodies to panel / cage-frame construction ? When FWD / unibody
construction became the norm ?

Question: If KIA or Hyundai sponsored a look-alike-but-streamlined body mounted on a Roush frame and motor, and it actually placed well. Would Korean econo-box sales increase in the Carolinas because fans would think that those kim chee burners actually go fast ???

[ 02-05-2003: Message edited by: jondster ]

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Originally posted by outrider:
aging cadillacs and winnebagos driven by beer-bellied Vinnies and Tonys clogging up the intersections in route to the nearest walmart to pick up a couple extra styrofoam coolers for the big race weekend.

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I thought they were getting those coolers for the church picnic!

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Careful now, someone could take that the wrong way.

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There's no "modification" involved. Like Burb says, there is absolutely NO resemblance to the vehicle they are supposed to represent other than :

1. Runs on gas
2. Has 4 wheels
3. Looks vaguely / kinda / squint-your-eyes-and-imagine-it-on-the-street like something you might be able to buy to drive.

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Originally posted by Kane:
Actually the Cars are running 700 hp 22 gallon tank, 545 ft. lbs. torque posi rear so all they are is a modified version of a street car the only difference is that there are no headlights and they have an overpowered V-8

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