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Rachael
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posted 08-29-2001 06:38 PM     Profile for Rachael     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Why does everyone think the primary colors are red yellow and blue? The world is uninformed and schools and artists, who know jack *$^@ about colors, think its red yellow and blue.

Its red green and blue, why are people so stupid? When you try and tell someone that it isn't yellow, and that its green, they freak out, because they've been taught their whole life the false idea that its yellow.

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posted 08-29-2001 06:55 PM     Profile for Fluffaphonous   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
So what if you're color blind. We don't discriminate.
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posted 08-29-2001 08:03 PM     Profile for fear   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
RGB are the primary colors of light.

RYB are the primary colors because you can mix yellow and blue to make green.

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posted 08-29-2001 08:08 PM     Profile for Rachael     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
RGB are THE primary colors. Why does it make green when you draw with a blue crayon and a yellow crayon? Its not pure blue and its not pure yellow, but most of all, they dont mix EVENLY. You aren't getting an exact mixture, 50/50 of yellow and blue. What is color? Its light, the way your eye sees it. So... yes, they are the primary colors of light, of everything.

If you guys are confused, go here then...
http://www.konica.co.jp/english/color/color1.html

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posted 08-29-2001 10:04 PM     Profile for MadHatter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
considering your human..

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posted 08-29-2001 10:07 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The actual answer is the RYB loonies have it.

RGB are the three colours produced and used by every single display device(monitor, TV, etc) since colour tv was invented. But the agreed upon primary colours, that have existed since man painted on cave walls are RYB.

Rachael if you don't believe me, look it up. See, you can't possible mixe Red, Green, and Blue pigments to make the base colours of paint you need. That can only be done with RYB, how do you make orange with out yellow, and how do you make yellow with green and blue. . . green and blue make brown, and if you keep adding green it just becomes aqua and if you keep adding blue it just gets darker and darker till it becomes black. Only an electronic display device can use RGB properly, that's why RGB are not the primary colours.

Why do you think that colour printer cartridges don't use red green blue. . . they ALL use Red Yellow Blue. I should know. . . we refill them at work.

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Huh. . . just found out something. . . both are right. RYB are the primary colours as are RGB. Know why? RGB when mixed in equal parts make white, and RYB when mixed in equal parts make black. RGB are the additive primary colours and RYB are the subtractive primary colours. In painting and art subtractive principle of mixing, in physics the additive principle of mixing. Go here for a really good explanation
http://www.xterna-net.de/~r.strasser/colour1.html

So there you go rachael. . . neither answer to the question is wrong.

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posted 08-29-2001 11:13 PM     Profile for Rachael     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The subtractive primary colors, are the inverse or RGB, which is cyan, violet, and yellow. CVY....

The RYB you're talking about, is on pigments. When you add colors on paper, of course its darker. We're talking light... RGB = light primary colors, the true primary colors of science. CVY, subtractive is only for computers and stuff, subtractive meaning the method which the image is draw. Subtractive can't exist in nature or in real life, it doesn't make sense. But with pigment, RYB is a totally different thing.

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posted 08-30-2001 01:07 AM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Every
theory of
colours tries to find elementary/basic rules
of colours and their effect, to make the handling of colours
easier.
The first step is to
determine the socalled primary
colours,
with which one can mix any other shade.
In contrast to physics
the primary colours in painting are yellow, red and blue. (In physics red, green and blue -
look at your RGB-monitor.) This results from the different
methods of mixing colours. In physics it's common to use the
additive principle, in painting the
subtractive one.

quote:
Today
cyan, magenta and yellow
are used as the primary colours. You can find them e.g. in
printing technology (CMY + K, black, to get a better
contrast, the darker colour tones and the colour black for
itself).

quote:
This is an annotation to the article I posted:

The basic colour wheel of Itten is good in
principle
BUT
when it comes to Primary colours it is more
accurate to have a red that is magenta (ie crimson or
Red-blue shade), a blue that is cyan (ie turquoise or
blue-green shade) and yellow (ie lemon yellow or yellow-green shade).


All the above quotes are from the article I posted.

CMY are have replaced RYB for pigment mixing, but they are the same thing. Cyan(blue) Magenta(red) Yellow. The CMY colours produce a better contrast than the traditional RYB and that's why they are used in things like colour printers


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All colors can also be produced through a mixture of yellow(Y), magenta(M) and cyan(C). These three colors produce a black color when blended in equal amounts.
They are known as the subtractive primary colors, and they form a complementary color relationship with B, G and R, respectively (opposite colors, or negatives).

That's from that Konica link you posted Rachael, a simple inference is all that is needed to see that the CMY and RGB are BOTH primary colours. . . they are just flip sides of the same coin. Violet is a mixture of red and blue. . . and there fore is a secondary colour.

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posted 08-30-2001 03:34 PM     Profile for Ski11z   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
shit...

i posted the wrong thing in the wrong post..and i cant delete this one. [ignore]

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posted 08-31-2001 04:18 AM     Profile for Parsout   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Okay okay, relax now.

I am a graphic designer - so i have the right to say this :P

I've had nearly 3 years experience in all this and WHAT COUNTS in the REAL WORLD is CMYK.

Why i hear you ask? Because the CMYK process allows the blending of 4 colours to make ANY combination possible. The 4 colours can also be replaced with any 1 colour mixed from scratch which makes like a hell of a lot easier than RGB - where the colours created from the combination are VERY limited.

Anyway, just my two cents


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