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GFKiller
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posted 08-23-2001 03:20 PM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Why would anything go smoothly in the computer world?!?!

I installed the mobo and new processor no problem. MB has power, PC speaker has sound, got into BIOS and Windows.

My IDE devices are being jerk-offs. My original setup was like this IDE1 - Primary: Quantum Fireball 13.6g Secondary: ZIP100 IDE. IDE2 - Primary: Asus CD-ROM Secondary: HP CD-R.

I've used this setup for over a year on my old Abit BX6rev2 with no problem. My new ST6-RAID doesn't like it. If I have all the devices connected as I described, at power on the computer will do nothing but a delayed beep. If I cancel out my ZIP drive, the BIOS reads everything else, but here's the kicker...

At the POST screen, the BIOS reads 3 devices, a HD and 2 CD's. At the next screen that shows system info (IRQ, DMAs, Processor Speed, Avail. Memory, IDE devices, etc., the screen right before the Win98 boot screen) all it reads is the HD and one CD-ROM, the Asus on the primary. Weird? No way.. The weird part is that Win98 only sees the Hard drive and nothing else, not even the Asus. Here's the best part though. If I boot the computer with a 98 boot disk, I can see and communicate with all 3 drives (keep in my the ZIP isn't connected anymore).

What the hell is going on in my computer case? My devices are revolting against the new MB. How can I get my ZIP drive back on the slave road to the Primary HD. Also, if I format and reinstall Win98, will that solve the missing CD drive problem? PLEASE HELP ME!


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GFKiller
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posted 08-23-2001 05:20 PM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Update.

At the initial POST BIOS screen, all devices are listed. HD as Primary Master, Zip as Primary Slave, Asus CD as Secondary Master, HP CD as Secondary Slave.

The 2nd BIOS screen only shows the HD and the Asus on their respective master positions. The other two are missing from the list, and as b4, only the HD shows up in Windows. Looks like I'll be formatting.


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Ski11z
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posted 08-23-2001 05:37 PM     Profile for Ski11z   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Could there be something wrong with your IDE cables?
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posted 08-23-2001 09:48 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well. . . if you're using a 250watt PSU that could be it.

Other than that, it's probably a device IRQ problem. Is the RAID controller disabled? I could see that causing a problem. I bet that if you check the properties of the c drive in windows. . . it'll be at least 100MB bigger than it should be.

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posted 08-24-2001 02:04 AM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It was a software problem as I feared. Win98 had to die.

I resurected it pretty quickly though and I'm proud to say everything is working fine. Only annoying thing is I can't change my ZIP drive's letter. It's set to D and it's smack in the middle of my partitions in the windows drive list and very annoying.


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posted 08-24-2001 02:16 AM     Profile for Ski11z   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What's the difference between a 40-pin ATA100 IDE cable.. and an 80-pin Ultra ATA100?
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posted 08-24-2001 04:34 AM     Profile for fear   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
40 pins is how many pins the cable connects with

But if it's the wire count you're talking about, 40 wire is ATA33, not 66 or 100. 80 wire is ATA66 and 100. If you ask me, the ones with 80 wires are extremely wankable but unfortunately, the wires of an ATA66/100 cable are easier to break when twisting them up (to increase airflow efficiency)

GFKiller, this is probably a stupid question, but are you sure your jumpers are set up correctly on all the drive? Some motherboards can work through that by forcing cable-select, but some others cannot.

I can never wank for the entire WEEK when I endure one of those days you just went through, GFK; the withdrawal pains are almost bad enough to make me use viagra

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posted 08-24-2001 08:32 AM     Profile for Parsout   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Get Win2k or XP man, change drive letter's on the fly

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posted 08-24-2001 07:08 PM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
XP can do it too? Cool. Anyways, I'm a little ticked at the price for a full XP package. $199? That sucks.

I'm one of those types that perfer buying the full package than an upgrade, but I think a $100 more is ridiculous. Not to mention $99 for an upgrade is ridiculous too.

Anyone ever try rounding an ATA/66 wire? I just did my 33s last night. I won't say it was easy. It went smoothly for all but 2 wires. The silver is showing a little.


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posted 08-24-2001 07:51 PM     Profile for Ski11z   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Dude, i rounded my cables...hehe. THey look so damn "homemade."

Professional Level Approaching 2.1

I'm probably just gonna buy pre-rounded cables. Splitting my 80pin hdd cables is impossible...and they block my two intake fans in the front..so what's $20? Yeah, that's $20 CDN..

I've really been checking out a lot of case modding websites, and learned quite a bit..and found places with really low prices. So, if you do want to mess with your ide cables, i can hook you up with some cheap ass split loom, or rounded ide cables, or even window kits


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posted 08-24-2001 09:59 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Heh . . . I had something similar happen when I setup my dual boot on my new drive. I made the mistake of making a Logical DOS drive on an Extended partition for the second OS(As opposed to two primary partitions). . . so when I boot into win2k it shows up as E: I can't change it for the obvious reason. . . I'll fuck Win2k up. . . it won't know where it is, and I'm too lazy to re-install.

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posted 08-25-2001 03:44 PM     Profile for Snag   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
We are talking two separate drives here right Nate, cause you uh...can only have one primary per drive so, just wanna clarify (of course considering you are using something with the standard DOS/IBM partition tables hehe)
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