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Topic: Why Napster is obsolite
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AnArKi
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posted 03-10-2001 06:46 PM
    
Reason 1: CDs can easily be "Downloaded" into your jaket pocket, while
your friend distracts the cashier at your local music store. You may
ask, "Keith, Isn't that stealing?" and to that I say, "No, It's called
"FILE SHARING".Reason 2: Scientists have already created a divice that can transform
sound into air waves, that can be recieved by divices that can be placed
anywhere in your home, and even on the dashboard of your CAR! This
revolutionary divice has actualy been aroun for a REALY long time. It's
called a freakin' RADIO!!! Reason 3: You can tape music off the radio! Reason 4: mp3s are a big waste of space on your computer! MORE ARE TO COME, AND FEEL FREE TO ADD YOUR OWN!
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"Is it just me, or does it smell like teen spirit in here?"
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Snag
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posted 03-10-2001 07:24 PM
Reason 1: CDs can easily be "Downloaded" into your jaket pocket, while your friend distracts the cashier at your local music store. You may ask, "Keith, Isn't that stealing?" and to that I say, "No, It's called "FILE SHARING".Piracy is on thing. Theft of physical inventory someone else paid to acquire for the purpose of sale is another.
Reason 2: Scientists have already created a divice that can transform sound into air waves, that can be recieved by divices that can be placed anywhere in your home, and even on the dashboard of your CAR! This revolutionary divice has actualy been aroun for a REALY long time. It's called a freakin' RADIO!!!
Radio does not sound all that spectacular. Reason 3: You can tape music off the radio! Who wants to wait to record a song played on someone elses schedule and have to listen to all the other shit in between  Reason 4: mp3s are a big waste of space on your computer! If you got that little space on your computer that some mp3s are considered a waste of space, might I suggest getting a real hard drive or perhaps a cdr A satyrical reply to what seemed a satyrical critique on the mp3 world
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AcidWarp
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posted 03-12-2001 03:57 AM
Broch~ I was actually quoting, verbatim, what Napster's creator, what's his face, and some other dude said at a music awards show I saw last year. . . They were presenting. . . I thought it was funny, especially considering the camera panned to a shot of Kurt Hammet from Metallica covering his face.Red, I'm sick of it too. I don't really care, I mean I use it, but when it goes away I'll just find something else, no big deal. . . I think that the problem is that to some of those little punks, mp3s only exist because of Napster. . . hell I remember WAY back I'd spend hours on the net looking for one mp3, that was probably 22Khz and 96kbps. They existed before, and they'll outlast it. ------------------
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Broch
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posted 03-13-2001 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by MadHatter:
i for one would rather steel from some one who would not feel the effects as badly.
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Most people have this feeling at sometime in their life.. its normal. The fact is someday you'll either become the big evil company or work for one and by then you will counting every $. It doesn't mean your evil or greedy.. it just means you have figured out how to survive. Some animals survive by killing other animals.. we survive by selling CDs. No fucking different.
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posted 03-13-2001 07:06 PM
No, madhatter, they aren't being dicks about it. It's the basic premise of a free society, and a free enterprise. Law of supply and demand, that sort of thing. First of all, in a free society, it's wrong to take something that doesn't belong to you, and that the person who owns says you should pay for. It doesn't matter if you like the price or not. You don't like the price? Start your own record company, and charge smaller amounts. Or wait for someone else to. Or pay the price. Or don't get the music. Or be a thief. Your choice. You'd be doing the same thing if you were in the record executives positions, you're fooling yourself if you say otherwise.Don't get me wrong, I'm not above copying a CD and giving it to a friend. I'm just not trying to rationalize it, saying it doesn't matter becuase of blah, blah, or that they deserve it, blah, blah. You can get as mad at me as you want, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a crime to download copyrighted material from the internet without permission from the copyright holder.
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MadHatter
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posted 03-13-2001 07:31 PM
If i were in the record execs position i would try to work with the internet and not against it. I am not saying the stealing is right, i am saying that if they (record companys) wanted to make a profit from napster like programs then they could. quote:
It doesn't mean your evil or greedy.. it just means you have figured out how to survive.
and if the record industry wants to survie then they will find a way to use the internet to their advantage. the more that the industry pushes to shut down napster like programs, the more programs will arise.. mp3's + the internet changed the way we get music, and the industry refuses to believe that. 40, i am not mad at you, and i dont try to rationalize it, 10% of the mp3's i have on my computer are downloaded from the internet, I STOLE THEM! i am just trying to explain that these peer to peer programs are not going away, and the industry better find a way to use that as a way to make money. BTW, i have a very large cd collection, and i buy many cds.. but if i just want a single song, or a live mix then i download it. 99.8% of things i download from napster are live mixes that arnt available to me unless i download them. ------------------
I will live forever, or die trying.
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posted 03-14-2001 09:57 AM
Yeah, they could have gone about it differently, but they didn't. It may or may not turn out to be the best thing they could have done, in the long run. Shut napster down, and in the short run have the traffic skyrocket. Once shut down, traffic plummets significantly. Sure, some will go to gnutela and the other programs, but a lot will just stop downloading. There decision to take the action they did was as much a marketing decision as a legal one. No, they're not dickheads. They are businessmen. And you know what? There's nothing wrong with that. Actually, there's a lot right with that. All these people bitch and moan about not being able to steal anymore. About how much money the record companies make, and how little actually goes to the artist. How many of these complainers have started a record company of their own, signed up artists, and offered the music for free? How long would that company last? Not very long. How many have started a company of their own, signed up artists, and charged a 'nominal' fee, with most of it going to the artists? Not many. Who would want to? Start a company to not make profits? Na. If it's the right thing to do, why isn't anyone doing it?Bah, I'm rambling again. Hope I got my point across, but I doubt it.  Oh, and recording from the radio is legal. As long as you don't distribute that music, and only use it personally. And that has nothing to do with the napster case, as much as people want it to.
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