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Wolfie
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posted 12-20-2000 05:29 PM     Profile for Wolfie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
sheesh they're playing all these love songs and Christmas songs on the radio all the time now.

Anyway.

SOOOOOOOO guess what my sister and my friend got me as a joint present for Christmas? Monkey 4! AAAHHHH!!!!

But....

AAAAHHHH!!! My computer! It needs a 3d accelerator card and mine is an S3ViRGE! (geez I need an upgrade) No matter I tried installing it anyway. You guys remember I have a 20gig in there as well as my 1.9 gig. Well my 1.9 gig is pretty full up... about 60 meg of freespace left.

Well so I tried installing it to my 20 gig... I have AT LEAST 18 gig of freespace left on that baby, but what does it say? It says that I don't have any space left! WHAT???? So I thought maybe it might be saying that because it might be trying to use up space in my C drive temp folder, so I did some C drive cleaning up so I have 220 meg free space on there (oooh) so I tried again... but no cigar! Do you guys have any idea what's going on? I could install onto my C drive... which I did.

It worked marginally... but there's a big white rectangle in the top left of my screen so I'll be using my sister's computer to play it (she's got a TNT2).

But could you tell me why it would tell me that there's no more space on my 20 gig and how I could fix it?


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posted 12-20-2000 08:23 PM     Profile for Cacophonous   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Wow wolf that is weird.

Are you absolutely positive you were not trying to install it to c?

BTW don't try putting it on c because your 1.9 GB drive is too full. You need all of that free space you now have left open.....(IMO)

Personally I would pull your 1.9 GB HD out and use the 20 GB for your operating system. Put the 1.9 GB as is on a shelf for emergency situations. Before you do that you could back-up all your settings (favorites, email, etc) to your slave drive.



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posted 12-20-2000 10:21 PM     Profile for Snag   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
try running scandisk. what could be hapening is a damage FAT and it is misreporting free disk space. Another thing that could be happening (less likely but possible if you do a lot of deleting ) is that you might have a shitload of lost clusters. The former is the more likely though.


Also, remember that it might also be saying that it is short on space because it may need to unpack some temporary files (most likely to your c:\windows\temp dir) and that you don't have enough to run the install...not that you don't have enough for the game in particular. This is actually the most likely.

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posted 12-21-2000 03:04 AM     Profile for Lindi   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've got an extra i740 AGP display card, but I guess it's not worth sending it all the way from Finland, is it?

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posted 12-21-2000 04:56 AM     Profile for Redlemons   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
As Pappy-R said when I tried to persuade him to send me a Gamespy shot glass, "The shipping would cost more than the thing is worth!"
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posted 12-21-2000 06:35 PM     Profile for Wolfie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Lindi I'm only in the UK...

Cac I'd do that but I like my setup. However if future problems occur... I would probably have to. Also I don't know where half my program disks are!

Snag, I ran scandisk through it, and wonder of wonders! It found a fatal error (or something like that) that said that it could cause the disk space to be misreported or to for the disk to run really slow, so I 'fixed' that.... but when I tried to install Monkey to D drive (my 20 gig)as a test the problem was still there! And yes I am absolutely POSITIVE that I am installing to my D drive.
Also I thought about that temporary files being the problem... however if they were I wouldn't have been able to install to C drive in the first place.

Here's another thing... when I uninstalled it today off my C drive my C drive registered only the same amount of freespace as when I had it installed. Weird? yeah. I restarted... but no cigars!

I'm defragmenting at the mo... I'm using my sister's puter.

OK that's all you'll here from me for a while... I'm going off to France then to Germany for 10 days. be good!


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posted 12-21-2000 06:48 PM     Profile for Snag   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
lol...so nonchalant in Europe about going to places like that. I mean, for me to drive home to my parents for Christmas would be the equivilant of driving half way across Europe through god knows how many countries lol Well...maybe not half way across Europe...but it would be through a few countries

God I wanna go to Amsterdam lol


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posted 12-21-2000 06:53 PM     Profile for Snag   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
also, I tend to live by the rule "if all else fails format c:/u/s"

I would rather install the thing than spend hours upon hours getting frustrated and swearing especially when windows is involved...stupid piece of shit


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posted 12-22-2000 06:07 AM     Profile for Lindi   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'll send you the card... if you pay for the postage, it's only a 8 Meg card, but it does even run Q3, not very well of course.

It never worked very well with the bundled drivers, but I've got a working set of drivers on my HD.

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posted 01-05-2001 06:25 PM     Profile for Wolfie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
woah I forgot this topic even existed. :P I'm trolling through the stuff I've missed, sorry.

Lindi, sounds good to me. However I'm bidding on Ebay for a Voodoo3 (woooh) but if that doesn't work out, we can discuss.


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posted 01-05-2001 09:25 PM     Profile for Gladiator   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
My brother has an i740 agp chip integrated into his MoBo. It shares system RAM, from 2MB to 11MB. It performs pretty well on Q3. at 640x480, 16bit hes getting around 50fps.
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posted 01-05-2001 09:27 PM     Profile for Gladiator   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Wolfie, I'm sorry to tell you this, but the i740 is pretty much equivalent in power to a VooDoo3. Remeber, Voodoo3 is quite old compared to the i740. My friend and brother have similar specced systems, only videocard and amount of RAM differred, and they are benchmarking the same...
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posted 01-05-2001 09:29 PM     Profile for Scooby   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
You have your data wrong, or chipset name wrong.

The i740 came out during the Riva128 times. I preforms WORSE then a Riva128(predicessor to the 128Zx, then TNT1), and most definitally wouldn't do as well as a Voodoo3 in Quake3


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posted 01-08-2001 01:11 AM     Profile for falsefriend   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The Voodoo3 May Be old. But it can still run everything under the sun at a fairly good framerate. I got a GeForce2 in my main PC but we keep the Voodoo3 in my roommates PC because Voodoo3 runs everything full speed, and when I say everything I specifically mean Ultra HLE the N-64 emulator. No other video card on earth runs Ultra HLE at full speed. And Ultra HLE is the only way to Play Mario 64 and Zelda Ocarina Of Time on the PC.
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posted 01-08-2001 01:44 AM     Profile for Gladiator   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Sorry, but I saw the benchmarks, and the guy with the more RAM had the VooDoo3. I'll believe what I can see...
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posted 01-08-2001 02:15 AM     Profile for Parsout   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
HAHAHHAHA, what a joke. i hate i740's, they fucking suck!

My bro had a pc that had an i740 in it, it shares the system ram - he was getting 19fps in Quake 3 @ 320x240!!!!!

Now, i bought him a Voodoo 3 2000 for his birthday (gees, ya think im too kind?? ) and now he's getting about 48fps @ 800x600.

Nuff' said.

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posted 01-08-2001 02:23 AM     Profile for Snag   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Based on this...and the fact my TNT got 30fps in Q3 on a good day, sorry to say but I think scooby gets todays scooby snack.
http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/98q2/980427/chips-02.html

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posted 01-08-2001 06:02 AM     Profile for Lindi   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I never tried Q3 with my adapter, but I lent it to afriend of mine who did. He managed to get something like 20 FPS @ 640x480 with it. Not too good, but it does atleast run q3, eh?

It's good for desktop stuff though.

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posted 01-08-2001 10:25 AM     Profile for Gladiator   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
My brother has a Celeron 600, 64MB of RAM,and an i740, he's benchmarking 2000 under 3dmark2000. Does a little more than just desktop stuff.
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posted 01-09-2001 06:37 AM     Profile for Lindi   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
If you say so, never really used it for gaming...

I also might consider selling my TNT2U (Asus-V3800) if anyone is interrested. I'm thinking about purchasing a GeForce2 for my system.

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