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Rivendell
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posted 08-28-2000 07:29 AM     Profile for Rivendell   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I met an old flame of mine for the first time in 10 years this easter. Both felt pretty good about seeing eachother again, and we've kept in touch since then. We met eachother again in june, and this time it was pretty clear that our feelings towards eachother were as strong as ever...
One problem though...she is living with a guy and the've even bought a house together...not good. Anyways...since I quickly learned that their relationship wasn't very good anymore, I still kept in touch and have been talking to her via phone and e-mail (she's living several hours from me). We both felt that we needed to see eachother again, to find out where this was going and if there was any chance of getting there (remember: She's with a guy, they have a house together, she has a job there, and I live 7 hours away by car...not easy).
So she flew to meet me this weekend. We spent a wonderful weekend together, talking, walking, eating, cuddling, etc. We didn't address the future too specifically - I think we both want to take this one step at a time. Anyways, I drove her to the airport again yesterday, and kissed her goodbye after a weekend I really enjoyed. So far so good....
Then early this morning she called me, and said that whatever we had together, had to stop. It was over and she didn't even want to have contact with me anymore. She sounded pretty strange on the phone, but didn't want me to phone her, mail her, message her or anything. I was completely unbalanced by this and had to get myself together before going to work. I had a suspicion that her guy found out somehow, since she didn't sound like her true self, and I had no indication of this yesterday whatsoever. I know it must be difficult for her being in a relationship and all, but afterall...why take the risk in spending the weekend with me if she's going to dump me the next day?
As soon as I got to work, I sent her a long e-mail expressing my concerns and questions (I have a lot of them). I then sent a message to her cellular, telling her to check her mail....I wanted to leave it at that, and then see if I got a reply. Almost immediately I got a message telling me she couldn't check her mail, since she wasn't at work, and wanted me to message her instead. I sent her another message telling that I had to many questions, so I had to to wait for her to see the mail. I then got another message with a strange question, so I sent another message telling her that perhaps I was paranoid but I didn't want to send more messages until I was sure it was her. Moments later my phone rang and the guy was on the other line, telling me to back off. It turned out he was sending all the messages I received today. He was polite and all, and of course I see his side of it as well, so I didn't start to exchange words with him at all...I told him how I felt and that they obviously need to talk things through...Then I told him I was at work, and hung up.
I've tried to call her at work today, but she has called in sick. I know he has beaten her before, but I hope to God this isn't the case this time. I suspect he's keeping her on a leash, though....Anyway there is no way for me to talk to her alone, before she's back at work. I can see his side of the story and I feel a bit like the big black wolf here, but I really want her back....
So...what do I do now?
Ahh...life sucks sometimes...

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posted 08-28-2000 07:57 AM     Profile for LordOPain   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
dude.... let it be......
if shes doin it to him, a guy she planned her life with...
who do you think you are to be any better off in a couple of years...
lifes too short...
(just my 2 cents)
been there, done that..... never a good ending....itll always be in the back of your mind, every move she makes w/out you, youll always wonder...

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posted 08-28-2000 08:21 AM     Profile for Cyborg6   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Don't be Gotta Woody2...

It sounds like she hasn't made up her mind yet.

Frickin' Women!


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posted 08-28-2000 02:37 PM     Profile for Snag   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
all i can say is if someone i knew and care for was being beaten by the one that was to love and protect her, i would drive the seven hours gripping a fucking louisville and give that prick a few lumps, bruises, broken teeth and bones!!!!!

the fact she is in a relationship is irrelevent to the fact she is in a violent relationship and potentially dangerous for her!! Why else would she call in sick. Why else would she make that strange phone call. Why else would he be using her cell to monitor calls...the guy is a fucking asshole and needs to be buttplugged with a louisville!!!


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posted 08-28-2000 03:14 PM     Profile for Mithrandir   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I personally would also drive down there just to check she is ok...it is your right as a friend (maybe more) and your responsibility to her to see if she is okay...if she is...then leave it..if not do what u think is right follow your instinct...just make sure she is ok...i.e. safe.

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posted 08-28-2000 04:40 PM     Profile for grumpy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
there is nothing better than a good friend d00der. besides, best friends make the best lovers . . . i think?
but you definately seem hung up on this girl, especially after 10 years . . . shit mang, that's more that fitty percent of my life. but it definately doesn't hurt for you to be by her side. life does seem kinda harsh for ya right now. try not to let it dwell on your mind too much and let it effect your work performance to a point where you start gettin attention from queefs who want to butt in on wuts happening. that normally just complicates thingers. a 7 hour drive to see wuts up isn't a bad idea. 7 hours of your life right?? okay okay, 14 hours round trip. but still 14 hours, that's worth a 10 year love of yer life. and it doesn't seem like a huge risk. and her calling in sick may be because of her being man - sick. like she misses you or something. or sick of her current man. i dunno.
update us dammit.

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posted 08-28-2000 05:17 PM     Profile for Wolfie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I agree with everyone else, if anything the least you owe her is to take that drive down to see what's happening. You may seem like the big bad wolf but if you're doing this it'll be to make sure that she's alright and that she meant what she said. Afterall, 10 years is a very long time to still like a person.
No matter what... if this guy has beaten her even ONCE before you should get her out of that relationship as soon as possible. If there is a once, there is no doubt that there will definetely be a second time, and after that, a third time, and so on.
Don't let your guilt get you. This guy seems obsessive that he would be monitoring her mobile phone messages.
However, when you get down there, check this guy out to see what he's like, but don't let apeareances fool you. Check for your own conscience to see if this guy is a nice guy, and if he's genuine.

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posted 08-28-2000 09:21 PM     Profile for PrincessGummy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
ok...

Probably this guy that she is with did now approve of you and could have possibly beaten her and maybe she is afraid to get it contact with you or not allowed.

in cases like this, there is nothing you can really do. you can hurt deep down in your heart, or you could risk having her hurt physically.

don't say life sucks. i strongly believe that there is someone for everyone and when you find that person you will konw and they will know and no matter what, you will be together. if it is meant to be, all will work out, if not, crying is ok and you need to be open and try not to compare her to others...that is my problem right now...

see, i dated this guy two years, we broke up a little over a year ago, and it's still so hard to find anyone else that measures up to him...but he wasn't great either, he used to not allow me to put my hair in a ponytail and he made me do a lot of stuff i didn't want to do....sometimes, you think you're in love, but...love is such an overcoming emotion that you don't see how much the relationship could be in jeopardy.

so, why am i telling you all this? well, if you did really care about or even love her, you wouldn't want to see her get hurt if she is...quite possibly tell someone you know about it and do something...if she is being hurt, you need to call a hotline or talk to someone who could help to handle the situation.

if she is being hurt physically and she feels strongly about you, there is surely a huge burden on her, because she is being hurt mentally and physically.

you should really either put your feelings aside and forget about it, or get involved where you could risk hurting her more.

hope i didn't confuse you...if you need me i[m on aim and icq...

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posted 08-28-2000 09:23 PM     Profile for PrincessGummy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
also, don't say life sucks...it could be worse...

Just whatever happens don't do anything stupid like cutting or think anything suicidal...i know stuff can get pretty rough sometimes, but i've been down that road, and it can cause more pain than you started with

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posted 08-28-2000 10:14 PM     Profile for grumpy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
whoa
where'd that come from

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posted 08-29-2000 03:57 AM     Profile for Rivendell   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The replies are appreciated...I'll keep you updated as soon as I know anything...I'll try to call her at work again today, and I might be driving down there to check on her in any case...
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posted 08-29-2000 04:11 AM     Profile for Lindi   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Riv ~ I don't have any (good) advice on how to proceed with this, other than be very carefull... this sounds like a situations where you really wan't to think carefully about every step you take, god knows how volatile these things can be.

I feel for you d00d, wouldn't want to be in your shoes....

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posted 08-29-2000 05:53 AM     Profile for Rivendell   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well...I called her at work again today and actually got to talk to her...My suspicions were right, sort of....
She didn't mean anything she said to me yesterday, but she had no choice. Her guy was standing right behind her threatening her to do it. That's why she sounded so strange on the phone, and she hoped I would detect it. When she got home on sunday he beat her up (that's why she wasn't at work yesterday), crushed her cellular and took her sim-card (that way he could set me up with the messages since I thought it was her). He is controlling her all the time and will even look her up at work to make sure she's there. She desperately wants out of it, and want to be with me, but she doesn't dare move out because she's afraid what that asshole will do to her. And she doesn't want me to come down either, since she actually believe he would kill her (or me) if I did. So now what...? Anybody know how to deal with women that are abused? Anybody know any good hitmen in Norway? (j/k...sorta)

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posted 08-29-2000 08:19 AM     Profile for Lindi   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Man, I feel so frustrated just reading these posts.

Have you got "shelter homes" for abused wimen in Norway? You could ask her to contact one, for professional advice (Legal and othervise). Propably not an easy thing to do for her, but for the best in the long run.

Never been in a simmilar situation myself, but I saw a document on TV about these shelters, and how they work here in Finland.

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posted 08-29-2000 11:18 AM     Profile for Snag   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
listen dude, if she really wants to get out and go with you, in my opinion there is only one course of action. call the police, tell them of the situtation and get a police escort/standby to go with you to help her basically get whatever she absolutely needs (clothes etc...) and maybe other things (maybe her computer or stereo if she has one) so that she can still live and not give that asshole the privilege of free shit. pack all that stuff up in a car, and "dissappear". I say that cause she would have to quit her current job; obvious reasons. And she would most likely need to get out of the town she is in. The biggest thing is getting her OUT! To get her out safely though, most likely you will need police presence. God I hate guys like that They aren't even men...men know how to treat a woman.
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posted 08-29-2000 12:06 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I might know of a way to contact some hitmen out in Norway j/k

Riv, I was basically going to say what Snag said. Get her the fuck out. You might even want to go one step further and get her to press assault charges against him. That's always difficult in cases like this because the boyfriend always keeps them terrified in order to keep control. Most times the victim is scared to death. In any case, if you do get involved it's going to be very difficult for her, and you as well. Be supportive, caring, understanding, basically just be her friend.

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posted 08-29-2000 06:10 PM     Profile for Wolfie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What AW said. You definetely have to get her out.
I don't have many words at the moment, but I am really angry about guys like him. Do all you can, get the police on him, take him to court, get him in jail. You don't want him to be beating up on any other women or to come get her.

And you are going to have to be very supportive because she is surely going through a lot at the moment, and to her you will look like her white knight. The three definitive things is to get her out of there as soon as possible, get that guy in jail, and just be there for her. I wish you the very best of luck man.


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posted 08-29-2000 11:45 PM     Profile for Snag   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Also, think of it. You haven't seen her in ten years, she is in an abusive relationship, you all of a sudden meet up, then the whole truth becomes aparant to you....the Lord works in mysterious ways...as well as obvious ones sometimes (this is one of the obvious ones)
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posted 08-30-2000 07:06 AM     Profile for Rivendell   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I talked to her again today and offered her to come and live with me...I even offered to drive down there and get her, if that what it takes...we'll se how things go, but I defenately think I need to drive down there anyhow, since these things can't be settled that easily when we only have 15 mins on the phone each day....
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posted 08-30-2000 06:40 PM     Profile for Mithrandir   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
...if she dont mind ask her to take photos of herself (ie whatever he has done) just incase she decides to go to the Police...evidence...
My thoughts are with u mon ami...

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posted 09-01-2000 06:05 PM     Profile for Wolfie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
How's it going Riv?
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posted 09-03-2000 12:14 PM     Profile for Rivendell   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm not sure what the end-result will be...
I'm talking to her almost every day, though...she wants to move and she says the money she has put down in the house doesn't even matter as long as she gets out of there...She needs a place to stay where she's sure she won't be thrown out though...I would never do that, but she has to decide whether she wants to take that chance or not...She'll be away next weekend - otherwise I would have driven down there, but I am going down there in not too long....time will tell what happens...

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