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posted 11-21-2005 11:29 PM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
sorry, i just found out it shipped and is due here tomorrow.

i'm so fucking stoked.

carry on.

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posted 11-22-2005 08:11 AM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
How old are you??

Just kidding. I get a chubby when the QuakeForge cranks out a release.

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posted 11-22-2005 01:34 PM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
/me goes and preorders his Revolution.
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posted 11-22-2005 02:28 PM     Profile for RaverBoy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
YEAH! 360!! Now you can play games like.. uhm.. er..

wait..


.. nevermind.

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posted 11-22-2005 04:32 PM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm 12.

and I will continue to be 12 until the day I die.

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posted 11-22-2005 06:47 PM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I made this at work today:

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posted 11-23-2005 10:46 AM     Profile for Broch   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
guess those 4 yo asian kids working overtime on the new xbox chips f#cked up

http://www.flickr.com/photos/80491849@N00/


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posted 11-23-2005 12:09 PM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Its not every box, but I've read about that too. Some don't even turn on I guess.
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posted 11-24-2005 11:32 AM     Profile for Headstone   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
900,000 units sold in one day it is not surprising that a couple of units are having problems.

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posted 11-24-2005 11:58 AM     Profile for RaverBoy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ah, the speed of sales introduces flaws in the hardware?

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posted 11-25-2005 01:35 AM     Profile for Headstone   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
No but it does introduce a seemingly large amount of failures.

Say that there were 900 failures. All of them posted about it in one day.

Now if those 900 were spread out over 4 months no one would notice.

It is all in the way you look at the numbers.

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posted 11-25-2005 04:18 AM     Profile for RaverBoy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Or the xbox 360 just plainly sucks.

If this much problems was found in the first couple of days, just imagine what it'll do in the first YEAR.

Or even worse; the day after the warranty runs out.

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posted 11-25-2005 09:47 AM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Good call, raver. Bet you haven't even played one. Before you think launch glitches will indicate the quality of the entire line, maybe you should do a little research

The DVD drive of the orginal Xbox grinded the data side of discs. That hasn't been a problem since launch 4 years ago.

Playstation 2 had a software defect that allowed the console to play DVDs from foreign regions. The SCEI forced them to recall the discs and re-release patched software.

The Dreamcast launch was plagued by incorrectly-burned game discs, rendering them unplayable by the machine.

None of this means the flaws are acceptable, but everyone that has a problem can exchange it. Its well within the standard 90-day warranty.

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posted 11-25-2005 09:50 AM     Profile for Headstone   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Seems as though it is the power supply brick overheating that is causing many of the problems. So not much of a problem at all.

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posted 11-25-2005 01:16 PM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
He doesn't need to play an XBOX 360. He can play the original XBOX and imagine the same game with better graphics. BRING ON HALO 3.

Thats it.


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posted 11-25-2005 02:31 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
90 day warranty? That's it? Of all the things they could have taken from the original xBox, they took THAT.

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posted 11-25-2005 07:12 PM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Acid:
He doesn't need to play an XBOX 360. He can play the original XBOX and imagine the same game with better graphics. BRING ON HALO 3.

Thats it.



I LOVE you for saying that. That's why I'm still playing Quake2.

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posted 11-26-2005 12:06 AM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I wasn't a big fan of Halo, but Halo 2 had some great improvements to gameplay, rules, controls, weapons, etc. Even if you don't care about improved graphics (which I don't, to a degree), there were a lot of other good reasons to play it.

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posted 11-26-2005 08:39 AM     Profile for RaverBoy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
the XBox 360 is the least impressive console in the history of gaming.

It's even less interesting than the first XBox, and that says a lot about how fucked the 360 is.

But, yeah, have fun playing your "fun games" on it. :-)

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posted 11-26-2005 09:26 AM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Too bad you can't be objective.

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posted 11-26-2005 12:01 PM     Profile for RaverBoy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Seems like I'm wrong, after all:
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=xbox+360+sucks&word2=xbox+360+rules

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posted 11-28-2005 01:22 PM     Profile for burble   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Flux:
this means the flaws are acceptable, but everyone that has a problem can exchange it. Its well within the standard 90-day warranty.

yeah, 'cause there are plenty of other xboxes to exchange them for. durrrr.

microsoft didn't even meet the (very low) number they originally promised. half the people in my area with 100% guaranteed preorders didn't get shit.


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posted 11-28-2005 01:38 PM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Why don't we all just take a deep breath and run GNU/Linux? (Except Flux, of course..) You'll never be (directly) disappointed by Microsoft again.

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posted 11-28-2005 03:23 PM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The only reason GNU/Linux isn't exploited as much is do to user base and complexity. I'm sure if there was a mass transition it would be found to be just as disappointing.

Back on track, xbox sucks.


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posted 11-28-2005 03:45 PM     Profile for Serengeti   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Heya fanboyz!

Good to see both side of the fence are represented well!

/wave

(Seriously though, I have nothing constructive to add.)


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posted 11-28-2005 04:05 PM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Acid bases his statements on his first hand experience with operating system design, tcp/ip network programming, kernel encryption libraries, and Microsofts GET TEH FAX ad campaign.

Seriously, don't go there. Let's just leave it at "Windows let's me run <insert proprietary software suite here>," because that's all it's got on any implementation of Unix.

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posted 11-28-2005 05:09 PM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
There's nothing false about my statement and it waits to be proven wrong. You can easily make the same comparison to IE + Firefox. Much smaller scale, but Firefox was supposedly 'so secure and fast.' Yet since it has grown and became incredibly popular, exploits have been found on the same level of extremes as IE has(/had). Its also not as fast since it is not integrated with the shell (which is an unfair advantage that it can't compete with).

The same would happen with any Linux flavor.


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posted 11-28-2005 06:25 PM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RoGuEBiTcH:
Acid bases his statements on his first hand experience with operating system design, tcp/ip network programming, kernel encryption libraries, and Microsofts GET TEH FAX ad campaign.

I sure hope you know more about Windows than Acid does about Linux to make that kind of statement or your arguments are just as moot.

burb - MS has kept a small percentage of units on hand to replace defective ones. Maybe you should do some reading next time.

I'm enjoying my XBox. Kameo and Call of Duty 2 is fun.

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posted 11-28-2005 10:09 PM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I actually do know quite a bit about both systems. I wrote my term paper for my Operating Systems graduate class contrasting the Windows 2000 and Linux 2.4 kernels.

And for that reason, arguing the issue with either of you is a waste of my time.

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posted 11-28-2005 10:27 PM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Oh oh, a term paper! Watch out! LOL

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posted 11-28-2005 11:36 PM     Profile for Broch   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
XBox has just always felt low rent. And Sony just screams quality. Personally, halo will never touch any ID software products, so why would I want an XBOX anyway? For the graphics? I have a 7800 oc and another box with a 6800 gt.. big deal.

I love consoles when your just lounging and shit, but they suck @ FPS and anything other than tiger woods golf.. IMO


BTW, Rogue... term paper... lol.


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posted 11-28-2005 11:38 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
How many pages RB?

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posted 11-29-2005 08:28 AM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It was somewhere between 12 and 20 pages. I touched on the driver subsystems, memory management, network stack implementations, kernel-mode execution and interrupt servicing, io scheduling, deadlock and process starvation handling with the various scheduling algorithms available (well, Linux offers several), and finally modularity (read: separation of graphical subsystem from core OS components). It's not as tho that's the only time I've spent studying the two, either.

So yea, I probably know more about the two than you, Flux/Acid (especially since you're too scared to learn a Unix - where would you be without your mighty mouse?)

http://crux.nu/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/About

You see that page? You see the second name on that list? Are you aware that I hosted CRUXCon this year, the project's annual development conference?

Bah, I'm not gonna argue the point that I'm justified in holding an educated opinion regarding the two platforms. I know that I am.

I was only making a joke in this thread. Acid, STFU. I can't stand it when people who don't know dick about GNU/Linux spread FUD. It pisses me off. Know what you're talking about before you throw blanket statements around. You look stupid.

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posted 11-29-2005 09:27 AM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Acid, I wanted to post an apology for turning the argument somewhat personal (re: scared to learn Unix, etc). I'm not going to edit the post, because I think that's cheap (in case one of you has already read it).

Flux, I've tried to be on good terms with you lately. Let's not open this up again.

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posted 11-29-2005 12:08 PM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Its the internet, I didn't lose sleep (from that).

I never said Linux wasn't a good OS. I'm just implying that we don't know how good it is until it has the userbase that microsoft has to look after.

I've used Linux before btw. I've set up a few servers on my HS network (which were supposed to be impossible to do). We had to do 'x' projects to complete the class. It wasn't a bad class, I just didn't see it as logical for me using at home.


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posted 11-29-2005 02:32 PM     Profile for GFKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey, can I get a copy of that term paper? I could use some TP.


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posted 11-29-2005 03:15 PM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
;P I unfortunately lost it when the hard drive in my first emachines shit the bed. They had actually been recalled.. I lost so much stuff then. Ugh.

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posted 11-29-2005 05:43 PM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
RB - Kent State was nothing but Red Hat. All my assignments had to compile in GNU C++ or the professors wouldn't even look at them. Spent 4 years dealing with that and learning a Linux operating system.

If you're going to count academic experience, then I'd mention my semester-long operating systems class which used a big-ass 1,000-page book discussing common implementations of everything you mentioned and then some. Then there were the 4 coding projects where we had to (regretably) modify Nachos. And tests. Homework. Quizzes....

That's cool you hosted CRUXCon. It's fun to have side projects when in school. How many did it turn out?

Broch - instead of dropping $400 into a video card, $150 into a new mobo, $200 on a new proc and $150 on enough RAM, I was essentially able to upgrade my platform of choice with just $400. It might not be for you, but I prefer to do it that way. When I get the money I'll throw some of it into a new rig, but for now this is where I chose to spend it. Its a better investment, IMO, because it won't be obsolete in a year (neither the PS3 nor the Revolution will perform more than marginally better than the 360, if that).

And, fyi, you can't get any more low-rent than id games. 50 bucks for one play-through. I haven't bothered to play Doom III since I beat it. Halo 2, however, sees far more play time, especially since the MP doesn't suck.

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Kameo is still fun. I wish Call of Duty 2 would let you make parties with friends so you can bum from match to match with the same group of people. Aside from that, the game is much more fun than I had anticipated.

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quote:
Originally posted by RoGuEBiTcH:
Operating Systems graduate class

May want to examine that post a little closer Flux, looks to me like Bitch took an OS class as well, and the term paper was FOR that class.

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posted 11-29-2005 09:49 PM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Since when did I ever read stuff clearly?

Call it even.

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I don't care for how you tried to belittle the CRUX project. It's not "a little side project I worked on in school." It's a complete operating system ported to 4 architectures with several thousand installations worldwide.

CRUXCon was 3 weeks ago. The original creator of the distribution, his right hand man, and other very important contributors to the operating system were among my guests.
http://crux.nu

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posted 11-29-2005 11:19 PM     Profile for Flux   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I wasn't belittling it. I was being sincere. Jesus christ. You are nothing but a waste of time. I did stuff like that when I was in college too and thought maybe I could learn more about what you did by asking questions. Excuse me for trying to show some fucking interest. Fuck.

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Did that hardcore emachine come with AOL for linux? Did you have to ask the walmart cripple who sits by the front door where the linux emachines were?

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;P I unfortunately lost it when the hard drive in my first emachines shit the bed. They had actually been recalled.. I lost so much stuff then. Ugh.

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OH THE SARCASM
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lol.. the h4rdc0r3 3m4ch1n3 is a craptop I purchased at BestBuy:

It came with Windows XP Home on it, I think. I never booted whatever was on it. I popped in my CRUX cd right outa the box.

I hate that fucking cripple, btw. He lurks in the bicycle department at my Wal*Mart.

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posted 11-30-2005 08:20 AM     Profile for RoGuEBiTcH   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Oh Flux, I can't leave you hanging there with your pants all wet.. I interpreted your remark re: CRUX as sarcastic (after all, you know I've been out of school for like 4 years). Since you were in fact being sincere, I'm sorry for thinking that you were being sarcastic. lol.

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