HA! HA! spreading that one all over the forum

She complained about how drab and dull my off-white computer case and monitor are, she offered to get me a flower vase attachment. I told her I was allergic to flowers and she giggled and frolicked back home.

1. Mac processors have a more efficient set of instructions. Especially the new G4s which incorporate the Altivec instruction set which is dedicated to graphics processing.

2. PC processors are still based in the x86 world which acts as a bottle neck for performance. PCs need to stop worrying about backwords compatibility. Use a more stable OS too. Windows is way to buggy.

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Well, if they are so much more powerful than PCs, and they have an instruction set designed for graphics, why do they suck for quake 3, the only game worth mentioning.

Back when I was getting into PC's from my Amiga 500, I wanted a gaming machine that wasn't going to cost me an arm and a leg. Back in 1994 when this was all happening, macs were over double the price of a PC. Plus, who wants a very small selection of crappy games?

Macs are behind in the graphics...PERIOD.

...TheKiller

Yes, 5 years ago Macs where way freakin' overpriced. Now, not so much. iMacs start at $999. For a thousand bucks you get a video editing machine that can quake at 40fps. Granted, this is not the best frame rate, but it's pretty decent for $999. But I have yet to talk about the G4s. In all benchmark tests the G4s are about 2.8 times faster than PCs (G4 450 vs P3 600). There was also a benchmark comparing the G4 450 to a P3 600 dual processor system. The G4 still was faster than that PC system. Whoa! And G4s can do Quake 1,2, or 3 at 60fps + (60fps being the visual barrier where no skipping appears). The G4s can also perform up to 4 gigaflops per second. For those of you that don't know what a gigaflop is, it's one billion operations per second, and the definition of supercomputer (doing 1 gigaflop or more). Because the G4 is a supercomputer, Apple can't ship these things to "hostile" countries...China for example. It's considered technological warfare. Whoa again! The G4s start at #1599 too, not bad for a supercomputer. As for the games, yes, there used to be hardly any, but not anymore. Now Macs have Quake 1,2,3, Unreal, Unreal Tourney, Rainbow Six, Half Life is in development, Carmageddon 1,2, Falcon 4, Fly!, Starcraft, Warcraft Trilogy, Diablo, Diablo 2 to be released 2nd half of 2000, Halo to be simultaneous release for Mac/PC, Oni, Descent 3, Tribes, Myth 1 and 2, Age of Empires, C and C, Tomb Raider 2,3. I know I left out some, but I think you get the point. And all of the cool ones are for Mac. But then you can't play games without good hardware. Mac Voodoo 4 and 5 cards will be supported when they ship in March, we've got your basic 32mb Rage 128 cards, the 16mb 2xAGP 128bit cards, your Voodoo 2 and 3 cards, need I go on. And as for the statement that Macs are behind in graphics, why don't you tell that to the majority of graphics designers that use Macs for their work. This reply pretty much nulifies the "Macs suck" statement.

Besides all of this, I just like translucent computers. Sure you can get translucent PCs now, but I'd rather have the original that those companies copied from. he he.

(I hit the submit button with a smug look on my face) lol

Macs: They kick ass for grafic work. It is unaguable. BUT they are also a pain in the ass to troble shoot.. and the hardware setup on the older ones (and the imac) is a nightmare for a IS guy, whom ever design it must have been smoking crack.. but i will admit that i use one for some graphics work.

PC's: well lets face it, they win over all.. sure they dont have the graphics potential that macs have but they have everything else you would want. and i need not mention the software issue. and i find it hard to find the speed difference in my G4 450 and my PII 400,

i work with both, bith have there strong points and both have there weaknesses. but i would never recommend a mac to anybody..
i would say: Get a silicon graphics workstation..

p.s. the mice on the g4 and imacs suck my right nut.. you have to admit that.

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How did you find that page? It was good...

...TheKiller

This is a neverending argument because it is based on opinion. However, that introduces little intelliect on the most part and is just damn well hilarious seeing many people babble about many things they haven't a clue about (and I am not dissing anyone here...like i said for the most part)

I am tired so blah!
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Jakeman ~ I'd use a Mac but...

1. Overpriced
2. Lack of software
3. Can't game

Better hope BobbaFett doesnt see that ATI comment

Its simple: if mac was better than pcs, I think more than 5% of computers users would have macs. Currently about 5% use macs. That just shows they must suck ass.

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Xanthan: your comments about Macs not being able to game, being overpriced, and having a lack of SW were discussed and bacically disproved in my post earlier. (STRIKE 2)

They are still over priced. I can build a pc for about 900 - 1000 that will kick any macs ass in software.

The iMacs were a failure IMO . Slow , barely upgradable and a monitor buil in in ? yuck.

*sigh*
Time to set a few things straight...

I own a Mac.

I have never owned a PC.

PC's are better than Mac's for games.

If I wanted my 'puter for only playing games I would buy a PC.

If you wanted a 'puter for only playing games you should buy a PC.

Apple did NOT invent the GUI, Xexrox did. Apple "stole" it from Xerox and then Microsoft "stole" it from Apple.

I like do like the Mac OS.

If you grow up with the Windows OS and then spend 5 minutes using the Mac OS it will suck.

I have spent 10 years using the Mac OS, and on coming to University and using the Windows OS for the first time I found it hard. But NOT impossible.

Does anybody want to disagree with the stuff I have written so far?

Mac's are overpriced compared to PC's

Mac's usualy have better build quality. Not always true, but the new range of Mac’s, from the i Mac onwards have been particularly good.

Apple make the 'puters and the OS, is it a supprise that there are fewer software/hardware conflicts?

Microsoft have to contend with 1000's of possible configurations, they do a great job making Windows OS's work as well as they do.

The Windows OS is better for 3D.

There are some very clever people at Microsoft doing very clever things.

Both Apple and Microsoft are out to make money, not good computers. The fact that they might make some good ones once in a while is beside the point.

Mac's will never have as many games as PC's.

Are we still ok with what I have said?

Microsoft's monopoly has forced Apple to make better 'puters than they did 5 years ago.

Apple will never be as big as Microsoft.

Microsoft will have to work very hard to grow in size from existing levels.

The world of computing would be a poorer place if Apple never existed.

The world of computing would be a poorer place if Microsoft never existed.

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I feel pissed off that I had to write that stuff out. We have had this debate in this forum previously, and it was soo much more constructive.
If you disagree with any of the above statements, and I'm sure some of you do, could you please explain why. While leaving phrases like "F**k Macs" or "Win users - just have Mac envy" at the door. They get us nowhere, not to mention they wind me up in a big way.
Almost all of you have valid points hiding somewhere in your posts, but most of them are buried under so much schoolyard shit that you have to look hard to find them. What’s the point? You can learn so much from people who use different OS's why squander the opportunity to gain something from this place?

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The first reply I got was...

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Ok, ive just got here and so far I know that MACS SUCK!!! That is what the name of the topic shoul have been!!

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I don't care anymore.

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